> On Aug. 14, 2015, 6:15 p.m., Jie Yu wrote:
> > src/slave/containerizer/provisioners/backend.hpp, lines 55-57
> > <https://reviews.apache.org/r/37382/diff/2/?file=1040433#file1040433line55>
> >
> >     Hum, what do yo mean here?
> >     
> >     I think the backend should be container aware. I.e., we should pass in 
> > containerid in 'provision'  and destroy will take a containerid as well.
> >     
> >     There could be multiple rootfs for a container (because image in 
> > volumes). When the container finishes, the provisioner will try to destroy 
> > all rootfs provisioned for that container.
> >     
> >     Thoughts?
> 
> Jiang Yan Xu wrote:
>     This is intended for the image in volumes case but I was trying to not be 
> too explicit because it's not implemented yet (we should track it with a 
> separate ticket).
>     
>     My comment about 'nested' was incorrect, let me clarify here.
>     
>     The 'caller' is the provisioner. What I had in mind was: each Backend 
> call handles one image, if `Backend::provision()`s one image and then it 
> should `destroy()` the rootfs provisioned by one image.
>     
>     Suppose we have such a rootfs dir and each container has multiple 
> rootfses, some from ContainerInfo::volumnes and one from 
> ContainerInfo::mesos::image but they are stored side-by-side under 
> <container_id>/<image_type>.
>     
>     ```
>     <--rootfs_dir>
>     |--<container_id>
>        |--<appc>
>           |--<image_id>
>           |--<image_id>
>        |--<docker>
>     ```
>     
>     IMO since LinuxFilesystemIsolatorProcess::cleanup() calls each 
> `Provisioner::destory(containerId)` (appc|docker), the provisioner can look 
> at the subdir it manages and scan it and call `Backend::destroy(rootfsPath)` 
> for each image under it.
>     
>     So each `Backend::destroy(rootfsPath)` call destroys one rootfs and there 
> is no `nesting` under it.
>     Passing `containerId` into Backend isn't as clean as it should be the 
> provisioner who converts the id into a path and Backends are this dumb thing 
> which only knows paths.
>     
>     More clear?
> 
> Jie Yu wrote:
>     So the directory layout listed above is managed by the provisioner or 
> backend? It cannot be backend because otherwise that means provisioner needs 
> to know about the layout used by the backend.
>     
>     So if it's managed by provisioner, the layout should probably be:
>     ```
>     /var/lib/mesos/provisioners/
>         |-- appc/
>               |-- <container_id>
>                      |-- <image1>
>                      |-- <image2>
>         |-- docker/
>               |-- <container_id>
>                      |-- <image3>
>                      |-- <image4>
>     ```
>     
>     So we only allow one backend, or we allow multiple backends (e.g., what 
> if we want to use bind mount backend for appc but overlayfs backend for 
> docker, or we want to gradually roll out overlayfs backend so that two 
> backends co-exists for a while)? If the later, how can we figure out which 
> backend to use when destroying root filesystems?
>     
>     I just want to get the full picture sorted out. We can chat next week.
> 
> Jiang Yan Xu wrote:
>     Note that the above rootfs I mentioned is the result of the Backend 
> either collapsing its layers or overlay them and in the provisioner's view 
> it's just one entity.
>     
>     So the backend know about layout within a rootfs (e.g., its knows that a 
> rootfs is "ImageA(a script) -> ImageB(essential software) ->ImageC(base 
> OS)"); the provisioner knows about / manages the direcotry layout of 
> 'rootfs'es but not inside 'rootfs'es (e.g. This container wants three 
> rootfses, two of which from volumes).
>     
>     Yeah I agree the interface design requires a full picture of 
> multi-image-per-contain design. I will jot down my thoughts in a doc and 
> let's chat next week.

Hey we should talk about this as it affects all of our work, I think I didn't 
realize we're ending up doing multiple provisioner images for a single executor.
I think my assumption was that the backend when given a provision call is for a 
image as Yan mentioned, and returning the rootfs directory path which the 
provisioner can hold on to know where the backend has provisioned it to.

We don't really allow multiple backends with our current design, I don't think 
there is anything stopping us but it then become a very interesting API choice 
to see where we allow the user to specify this. My intuition is to just use one 
single backend and we record the backend that is used to provisioner a rootfs, 
so at least on recovery we can say we can't recover due to a backend change.


- Timothy


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> (Updated Aug. 14, 2015, 5:51 p.m.)
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> 
> Review request for mesos, Lily Chen, Ian Downes, Jie Yu, and Timothy Chen.
> 
> 
> Bugs: MESOS-2968
>     https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-2968
> 
> 
> Repository: mesos
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> The Backend interface is made generic so it can be used by different 
> provisioners. See 
> [MESOS-2968](https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-2968?focusedCommentId=14652859&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-14652859)
>  for details.
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
>   src/Makefile.am b5dbdc316cad179cd265bd81900999fab35940b9 
>   src/slave/containerizer/provisioners/backend.hpp PRE-CREATION 
>   src/slave/containerizer/provisioners/backend.cpp PRE-CREATION 
> 
> Diff: https://reviews.apache.org/r/37382/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> make check.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jiang Yan Xu
> 
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