You're not actually addressing my point. The chapeau is now inaccurate.
Here's the existing text:
7. Historical Properties of the RFC Series
This section lists some of the properties that have been historically
regarded as important to the RFC Series. Proposals that affect these
properties are possible within the processes defined in this
document. As described in Sections Section 3.2.2 and Section 3.2.3,
proposals that might have a detrimental effect on these properties
should receive heightened scrutiny during RSWG discussion and RSAB
review. The purpose of this scrutiny is to ensure that all changes
are deliberate and that the consequences of a proposal, as far as
they can be identified, have been carefully considered.
Some of the properties are *not* historical, and I would like them not
to be represented as such. Even simply removing the word "Historical"
in the title and "historically" above would suffice. No need to change
the text below. Less is more.
Eliot On 17.06.2025 20:29, Paul Hoffman wrote:
On Jun 17, 2025, at 10:50, Eric Rescorla<[email protected]> wrote:I agree with Eliot that we now have an inconsistency with respect to Section 7.6, but I don't think the fix is to remove the (as Jay says) very carefully negotiated "historical" text, especially as part of the idea was to acknowledge historical perspectives. Instead, I think the right fix is to revert 7.6 to the original language from RFC 9280 and add a note that acknowledges that we are relaxing this property.It's actually two properties. Section 7.6 is changed, and Section 7.8 is added.Perhaps "Note that historically RFCs were treated as immutable, but [THIS RFC] allows those RFCs to be reissued provided that the semantic content is preserved to the greatest extent possible".This changes "are not changed" to "immutable", something that the RSWG argued a lot about. I propose we don't revisit that. Instead, I propose keeping the 9280 text and adding the replacement text right there. ========== RFC 9280: 7.6. Stability Once published, RFC Series documents are not changed. ========== Current text: 7.6. Stability (The text in this section is updated by Section 1.4.1) Once published, RFCs may be reissued, but the semantic content of publication versions shall be preserved to the greatest extent possible. . . . 7.8. Consistency (The text in this section is added by Section 1.4.2) RFCs are copyedited, formatted, and then published. They may be reissued to maintain a consistent presentation. ========== Proposed replacement text: 7.6. Stability Once published, RFC Series documents are not changed. (The text in this section is updated by Section 1.4.1 of this document to instead read:) Once published, RFCs may be reissued, but the semantic content of publication versions shall be preserved to the greatest extent possible. . . . 7.8. Consistency (RFC 9280 did not have "consistency" as a historical property in this section. The text in this section is added by Section 1.4.2 to read:) RFCs are copyedited, formatted, and then published. They may be reissued to maintain a consistent presentation. --Paul Hoffman
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