2010/1/12 John Oliver <[email protected]> > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 04:20:41PM -0400, Stainforth, Matthew (SD/DS) > wrote: > > > So... I enabled haldaemon, and now this works. > > > > > I don't know what it would take to get Red Hat to back away from this > "Wow, cool new toys, let's make everything dependent upon all of these > wonderful new servers, it'll be so awesome!" mentality. If somebody > really wants the kerflugen daemon to manage their mouse and USB > backscratcher... let them install it. The rest of us aren't trying to > see how "cool" our systems can be. >
In the case of hal, it won't happen. HAL and udev between them take care of a lot of the device configuration stuff that was either compiled into the kernel and then hacked around by various start-up scripts. My favourite was always getting a network device called "_dev27612" or something because the renaming mess didn't fix that. All this Linux plumbing that has moved out of kernel space which now actually provides you with things that just weren't possible before. Working network device naming and encrypted USB disks are just two that spring to mind. It's true that for network devices you don't generally need hal and udev for statically configured devices once you've booted, but if you're going to plug in a virtual disk on your virtual machine you'll want it, or if you're plugging in more NICs on your virtual switch. Or even on your laptop when you plug in a physical disk into the docking station so you can do your daily rsync'd backup to an encrypted file system (which reminds me, I must do mine today) ... > How I long for the days when ps ax would all fit on one terminal screen. > > I don't remember that happening even when I was using a PDP11 except, possibly, when I had the machine to myself. Certainly by the time I got a VaxStation II I know that a more-or-less idle machine was running 100+ processes when I was logged in (and a lot more when I was actually working). jch
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