TC, 

The spacewalk is used for updates only. The RPMs we deploy are signed by 
RedHat, so essentially, we are using the same packages. We do have entitlements 
for all servers, but the pricing model for local RHN server was way off from 
what we can afford - especially when we use a fraction of features.

As for SLAs, we have multiple management engines that can deliver packages, in 
addition to secondary YUM servers that can be used - just in case spacewalk 
tips over. 

Regards
Ilya

PS: Suggestion to RedHat management team - enable licensing model based on 
feature set customers would use, maybe then Satellite would look like a more 
appealing and affordable solution.

-----Original Message-----
From: rhelv5-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:rhelv5-list-boun...@redhat.com] On 
Behalf Of tho...@redhat.com
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 2:20 PM
To: rhelv5-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [rhelv5-list] Patch/RPM Management of RHEL5 servers

Just curious - your infosec/compliance folks don't have an issue running your 
systems management workload on a project which offers no guarantees or SLAs?

Spacewalk is awesome, to be sure. I'm just surprised that something as 
important as security update delivery doesn't set off alarm bells with infosec 
types on a platform with no commercial support.

TC

On 05/25/2012 12:27 PM, Musayev, Ilya wrote:
> I can second what Ray has mentioned. It's a bit more tedious to set 
> everything up initially - but once it's all done, it works well. I'm almost 
> complete with my spacewalk setup. I will post a detailed guide in the near 
> future, since I'm documenting it for my employer anyway and need to abstract 
> proprietary info.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhelv5-list-boun...@redhat.com 
> [mailto:rhelv5-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ray Van Dolson
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 12:39 PM
> To: rhelv5-list@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: [rhelv5-list] Patch/RPM Management of RHEL5 servers
>
> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 09:27:39AM -0700, Jagga Soorma wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I currently manage all patching (and rpm installs) of RHEL 5 servers 
>> via our internal RHN Satellite server.  However, due to funding and 
>> other reasons, we are trying to save $$ and would prefer not to 
>> purchase management licenses for our RHN Satellite server.  I was 
>> wondering how other folks out there are managing their RHEL servers?
>>
>> What I am thinking of doing is only having a few licenses for my 
>> Satellite server and then using reposync to create manual 
>> repositories on a physical server (by extracting the rpms from RHN 
>> channels on our internal satellite) and have the clients register to 
>> these repositories instead of the satellite server.  This way I would 
>> have the same patches and cut on the cost of purchasing management 
>> licenses for our Satellite server.  Do you see any downside to this approach?
>> Are others doing something similar?  I have a growing environment of about 
>> 500 RHEL servers.
>>
>> Also, I only use the internal RHN Satellite server for patching and 
>> nothing else (no provisioning, kickstart files etc - done elsewhere).
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your assistance,
>
> What you describe will work, but why not just ditch Satellite entirely then 
> and reposync against RHN directly?
>
> As long as you're paying for your entitlements for each RHEL instance I think 
> you should be good (but recommend you check w/ your account rep first of 
> course).
>
> Alternaetly you could also do the reposync/mrepo thing against RHN and then 
> slurp it up into Spacewalk and register your RHEL hosts there.
> This would give you a near-Satellite experience sans support[1]
>
> Ray
>
> [1] Note I'm not 100% sure you *can* register RHEL hosts to Spacewalk.
> I think you can...
>
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