Kevin -
The allow_mult is set to false. I'm quite sure that we doesn't omit the
old entries vclock in the update. A typical vclock for an Person entry
that have been updated 363 times (adding 363 links) have a length of 581
characters.
We haven't changed the number of partitions in the cluster. 64 is the
number. What would you recommend considering that we have about 5
million people with 120 million documents?
Another information is that the first time I do a link walk (using curl)
on a total idle cluster it takes 2.71 second for a person with 363
documents. If I repeat the request it takes 319 milliseconds. I would
expect that the performance would be almost the same.
If I run my performance test with 20 treads, that randomly pick a Person
from 5 millions, the minimum time is 2.8s, average 6.7s, 90% 8.9s and
max 12.4s.
Would changing the ring_creation_size changing the read time to values
near your test performance? Is there any way to change the
ring_creation_size whiteout destroying our data? It takes 1-2 days to
bootstrap all our data. Our write is down to about 500 documents/second.
A bit disappointing but good enough for our application.
--
Jan Buchholdt
Software Pilot
Trifork A/S
Cell +45 50761121
On 2010-11-08 17:51, Kevin Smith wrote:
Jan -
I've run some tests using a 8 GB, 4-core Linux box I had handy along with my MBP as a
client using riak-java-client over HTTP. For the test I configured a user record as you
described linked to 250 1KB entries in a separate bucket named "documents". I
spun up 5 Java threads to simulate 5 concurrent users. Each thread performed the link
walk from the user to the documents 2500 times. From that I was able to observe the
follow performance (all times in milliseconds):
Average runtime: 124
99th percentile: 220
99.5th percentile: 263
99.9th percentile: 949
The large difference between the 99.5th and 99.9th seems to correlate to the
beginning of the run so I think those times might reflect the time required for
Java's server JIT to fully kick in as well as GC times to stabilize.
I was able to reduce performance by triggering "vector clock explosion". Setting a
bucket's "allow_mult" value to true and then overwriting existing entries with new values
while omitting the old entries' vector clock information causes the object's vector clock data to
bloat which will impact read times. Is there any chance this is occurring in your application?
Another possibility is the number of partitions in your cluster is not large
enough to provide good parallelization for your workload. What's the value of
ring_creation_size in your cluster's app.config? Riak will run with a default
ring size of 64 partitions if the entry isn't present.
--Kevin
On Nov 8, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Jan Buchholdt wrote:
Kevin
We are using HTTP, (have tried PB without any performance gain) and
using riak-java-client as client lib.
--
Jan Buchholdt
Software Pilot
Trifork A/S
Cell +45 50761121
On 2010-11-08 14:20, Kevin Smith wrote:
Jan -
Which protocol (HTTP or protocol buffers) and client lib are you using?
--Kevin
On Nov 8, 2010, at 6:36 AM, Jan Buchholdt wrote:
We are evaluating Riak for a project, but having a hard time making it fast
enough for our need.
Our model is very simple and looks like this:
--------------------- * ---------------------
| Person | ------------------------> | Document |
--------------------- ---------------------
We have a set of persons and each person can have many documents.
Our typical queries are:
Get an overview of all the persons documents. This query returns the person
along with a subset of data from all the persons documents.
Get document by id.
Our requirements are that these quires should be performed under in under
100millis when we have 10 requests per second or less load.
The size of the data:
A document is approximately 1 kb
No data for a persons except the personidentifier
Around 6 million persons.
Each person has from from 0 to a couple of thousand documents.
All in all we have 120 mio documents.
Most persons don't have more than 1 to 10 documents, but then we have some few
"heavy" persons having 500 to 1000 documents.
Riak setup:
4 Nodes.
Hardware configuration for each node:
HP ProLiant DL360 G7
18 gb ram
SAS discs
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5620 @ 2.40GHz Proc 1
Solaris 10 update 9
We use the default bitcask storage engine
We replicate data to 3 machines when it is written.
Reads are read from just one machine
We tried implementing our datamodel using Riak links as described below:
Persons are stored in a person bucket using their person identifier as key
/person/
{personid}
Documents are saved in another bucket
/document/
{documented}
At each person we store links to the persons documents.
We are having problems with the query fetching all the documents for a person.
Reading all the documents for a person is done using a link walk. The linkwalk
start reading all the document keys using the personid. It then fetches all
documents.
For persons with 1 - 5 documents the response times are often over 100 mills. And for the
"heavy" persons with many documents response times are several seconds. But we
are very new to Riak and are probably using a wrong approach.
Below are our thoughts (having almost no experience with Riak):
The chosen datamodel is good for writes. Writing a new document results in 3
operations against Riak. Writing the document using its id as key. Reading the
Person to get all the persons document links. Append the new document's key to
the persons links and write back the person.
Reading, using linkwalk, is slow because it is expensive to fetch many
documents even though the linkwalk can read their keys right away by reading
the links for the person. Even though we have 4 nodes and linkwalks are
parallelized many documents need to be retrieved from one node. Having to fetch
for example 100 documents on one node (one disc) is expensive. We do not know
how data is stored but are afraid Riak is doing a lot of disk seeks.
We are considering another more denormalized approach where we write all the documents
for a person in one "blob". But then we are afraid our writes become slow,
because when adding a new document the blob must be read, the new document inserted and
the blob written back.
We could really need some input. Is our assumptions wrong? (we have not yet dug
into the problems). Is there a good datamodel for our requirements? etc?.
We haven't looked at Riak search at all. Maybe it could solve some of our
problems.
-- --
Jan Buchholdt
Software Pilot
Trifork A/S
Cell +45 50761121
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