Am 03/05/2016 um 03:00 schrieb Matthew Rowles:
K&A (and also Brentano, upon rereading) say that in order to be focussing, the sample also needs to be toroidally curved; curved along ACB as well as be rotated about the axis AB; so it is a little more than the traditional flat-sample effect

Yes. And as ACB is not constant, a "focusing sample" should change their curvature (bent radius) following the focusing circle versus 2theta, getting more bent with higher diffraction angle, what is hard to do... That's why Bragg-Brentano geometry (flat sample) is the working compromise.

Btw, understanding the geometric principles seems to be a bit out of fashion, as we nowadays can find "strange" instrumental configurations for common powder diffraction work in many laboratories, for example:
- parallel primary beam optics in combination with narrow point detectors,
- overmuch long linear detectors combined with a Bragg-Brentano setup,
- small "antiscatter" slits in front of big linear detectors,
- "knife edge" antiscatter slits above the sample, asymmetrically limiting the incident/diffracted beam bundle,
etc. pp....

Reinhard



So summarising everyone here, and the papers I've been reading, parafocussing means "sort of focussing given the constraints of actually making a physical diffractometer". Also, we have a finite source and detector size, and that with the dimensions of beam footprint and goniometer radii that we use mean that it all pretty much works out in the end.


Matthew

On 2 May 2016 at 20:07, Kern, Arnt <arnt.k...@bruker.com <mailto:arnt.k...@bruker.com>> wrote:

    Matthew,

    I think Klug & Alexander (1974) give a good explanation about the
    origin of the term "parafocusing": 2nd edition, section
    "parafocusing methods", page 222 ff.

    Cheers,

    Arnt

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    Dear James,

    For me too, please, if it would not be much of a trouble.
    Thank you in advance!

    Eduard

    *On Mon, 2 May 2016 11:09:31 +0000, Cline, James Dr. (Fed) wrote*
    > Bob Cheary and I developed and presented a workshop several
    times in the 1990's that included a discussion of this issue.  I
    can send you the notes for it if you would like them.
    >
    > Jim
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    > James P. Cline
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    <mailto:rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr>] *On Behalf Of *Matthew Rowles
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    > *Subject:* Parafocussing definition?
    >
    >
    > Hi all
    >
    >
    >
    > I've been trying to find a good explanation of what
    parafocussing (wrt Bragg-Brentato geometry) actually is, but
    haven't been able to find one.
    >
    >
    >
    > Klug and Alexander just reference Brentano's papers.
    >
    >
    >
    > "The Basics of Crystallography and Diffraction" 2nd ed say that
    B-B geometry is "semi-focussing" because the sample is flat, and
    not curved to follow the focussing circle (this doesn't sound
    right to me)
    >
    >
    >
    > Brentano, J Appl. Phys. 17, 420 (1946) says that a ray
    reflecting off the arc defined by ACB where A is the source, C is
    the centre of the gonio, and B is the detector (ie the focussing
    circle)  is automatically parafocussing, because you only can
    establish the location of the crystallites, not their orientation,
    but then goes on to say that you can actually find the
    orientation, as the lattice plane normal bisects the angle ACB.
    >
    >
    >
    > I also haven't been able to find a use of the word "parafocus"
    outside of the diffraction literature, so I can't see how the word
    is used elsewhere.
    >
    >
    >
    > Any ideas?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Matthew


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