tlp;155378 Wrote: > Yeah, what a pain to get around someone's right to protect their > intellectual property. And it's so hard to find free programs and PHP > (or other) scripts to automate it for you. Whew, that IS a drag.
Huh? It's not a pain at all: I won't buy music that I can't listen to. I can't listent to music from ITMS, and I can't listen to music from PlaysForSure sellers, and I can't listen to music from the Zune store. So I don't buy it. If recording companies (artists are rarely part of this decision) choose to make their music inaccessable, then I won't buy it in those formats. You seem to believe I am advocating piracy because I refuse to pay for music I cant listen to. No, I am saying why the hell would I buy music I can't listen to? I spend good money at emusic, dgmlive and Amazon on music. Last I checked, it was still legal to own cd's. > > But what's really a hoot, and what I'd like to know, from an old (40+!) > retired internet CTO and long-time audio engineering hobbiest (speakers > and amps), is how you calculate signal loss from this process. The > burn/rip should be digitally identical. The re-encoding is entirely up > to you and there is no reason for bandwidith or amplitude degradation > from the original digital to most formats you can re-encode to. So > please, help me out, I would seriously like to know how you calculate > signal loss from this process. Quality loss. When you download a song from ITMS or Walmart or whoever you get a 128k'ish lossy compressed file. It has lost data from the original recording. Now you burn that to a CD: that step is lossless, sure. So is ripping it from a CD. But you have already lost data. If you then re-encode it so that you can get 6-10 hours of music on a CD, you lose data. Your only choice to preserve what data was there on the downloaded file is to have a CD that has no more than 70 minutes of music on it. But if I buy a CD, rip it and encode it myself, I only have one transition that loses data, instead of two. I also have a higher quality version on the player, since I can encode at better than 128kbps. Surely you don't believe that lossy compression can be repeated without loss. "The re-encoding is up to you"... no, it isn't. It is one of the conditions I put on music that I buy. I must be able to listen to it on my nice old pjbox, my car stereo (on my usual 6-10 hour cd's: I dislike swapping cds while driving) and my Squeezeboxes. -- snarlydwarf ------------------------------------------------------------------------ snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29626 _______________________________________________ ripping mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/ripping
