On 1/24/07, Kristoffer Lawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, XOTcl has a lot in it, but you can start from basics and just stick with that. You really don't need filters and mixins in day-to- day OO operations. Of course once you do need them, they're most valuable.
The elephant in that room is garbage collection, as I mentioned on tcl-core. I want my objects deleted automatically. David Zolli writes:
At least Jeff Hobbs at Fosdem (and you were with me to listen him). But I must admit that could be better.
He gave a talk about the state of Tcl, which is most definitely not something that's going to get a non-Tcl person excited. I think Hecl or Jim have, in some ways, better chances of doing something "big" than Tcl does at this point (although I haven't even had much time for Hecl lately:-( ).
But does it really matter that much? Even if I was the only one to use a good tool, I'll keep using it whatever others think of it.
Yes, but it's the extras, as someone else said, that start to weigh you down. RoR has a huge set of plugins that do all kinds of useful things. Also... I kind of like Ruby. It's not Tcl, but it's not Java or PHP, either. As long as those were the competition, no way was I going to abbandon Tcl, but Ruby isn't half bad, and does some things well that Tcl isn't good at (and vice versa), like OO, and, I have to admit after years of Tcl, having some syntax can be nice at times:-) In any case, though... I *am* still committed to helping out with Rivet here and there, but if other people want to see anything happen with it, they are going to have to step up and work on it. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
