The April couldn't give a precise answer. I've moved to the FSF and opened a ticket there.
I will keep you informed. On 29/11/2013 20:31, Aleksey Bragin wrote: > To give you my position: > 1. Current FAT driver in ReactOS needs to die away. I am testing all > my new code with the MS's FASTFAT driver. > 2. Lawyers advice is needed whether we can distribute it. > > Regards, > Aleksey Bragin > > On 29.11.2013 21:55, Hermès BÉLUSCA - MAÏTO wrote: >> Nice idea Pierre! >> >> About this license we're talking about: yes I understand as >> Aleksander: that >> you can only use fastfat or derived works from it, on an (authentic) >> Windows >> OS (just my 2 cents, I'm not a lawyer too). >> >> Hermès. >> >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org] >> De la >> part de Pierre Schweitzer >> Envoyé : vendredi 29 novembre 2013 18:24 >> À : ros-dev@reactos.org >> Objet : Re: [ros-dev] [ros-diffs] [ekohl] 61145: [FASTFAT] >> FsdGetFsVolumeInformation: Return volume creation time. >> >> Hi all, >> >> Let's the experts do. >> >> I've contacted the April (French association which mission is to >> promote and >> defend FOSS). They can answer about licensing issues (they propose it >> through their contact form). >> >> I'll keep you informed with their answers, highlights, and so on. >> >> Regards, >> >> On 11/29/2013 06:05 PM, Alexander Andrejevic wrote: >>> I suppose it depends on how you interpret it. >>> To me, "...extend only to the software or derivative works that you >>> create that run on a Microsoft Windows operating system product" >>> sounds like the program must run on Windows exclusively. It's not "... >>> that you create to run ...", but "... that you create that run ...". >>> >>> Regards, >>> Alexander >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 05:55:08PM +0100, David Quintana (gigaherz) >>> wrote: >>>> I do not agree on the "unless it's on Microsoft Windows" part. The >>>> license grants apply if it is "created to run directly" on windows, >>>> which I understand as "it can run anywhere else, also, just as long >>>> as it runs in windows without an intermediary". >>>> >>>> On 29 November 2013 17:51, Alexander Andrejevic >>>> <thefl...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: >>>>> Fastfat is located inside its own binary, so this is considered >>>>> "mere aggregation", and that is not the problem. (See >> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#MereAggregation). >>>>> The problem is that you don't even have a license to use it or >>>>> distribute it, unless it's on Microsoft Windows. >>>>> Then again, I'm not a lawyer either and I could be wrong too. It >>>>> would be great if someone who knows a lot about licenses explained >>>>> this. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Alexander >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 05:35:21PM +0100, David Quintana (gigaherz) >> wrote: >>>>>> The exact words of the license, as seen at >>>>>> http://www.ohloh.net/licenses/mslpl (I couldn't find a better link >>>>>> for it), are: >>>>>> >>>>>> "4. (F) Platform Limitation- The licenses granted in sections 2(A) >>>>>> & >>>>>> 2(B) extend only to the software or derivative works that you >>>>>> create that run on a Microsoft Windows operating system product." >>>>>> >>>>>> Excluding that term, the rest of the license is mostly a >>>>>> differently-worded BSD license. If it only needs to be tested in >>>>>> windows to ensure that it works there, then there should be >>>>>> absolutely no problem including it in ReactOS, as long as the terms >>>>>> don't conflict with the other licenses' terms. And GPL with the >>>>>> ReactOS exception, as far as I can tell, allows it. I'm not a >>>>>> lawyer, though, so I could be wrong. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 29 November 2013 16:17, Alexander Andrejevic >>>>>> <thefl...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Ged, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you sure that we can use software released under the MS-LPL? >>>>>>> It has a rather weird limitation in section 4, which says that >>>>>>> you can >> only use it on a "Microsoft Windows operating system product". >>>>>>> Since ReactOS is not Windows, that would mean we can't use it. >>>>>>> Please correct me if I'm wrong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Alexander >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 02:58:51PM -0000, Ged Murphy wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Eric, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know this has been discussed before, but should we not just bite >> the bullet and replace this driver with the Microsoft driver. >>>>>>>> The MS_LPL license allows it to be used in reactos, and it would >> certainly get rid of any unknowns and give us a reliable filesystem >> to work >> from. >>>>>>>> http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/windowshardware/fastfat-File-Syste >>>>>>>> m-Driver-135bdf34/view/SourceCode >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ged. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: ros-diffs-boun...@reactos.org >>>>>>>> [mailto:ros-diffs-boun...@reactos.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>> ek...@svn.reactos.org >>>>>>>> Sent: 29 November 2013 14:06 >>>>>>>> To: ros-di...@reactos.org >>>>>>>> Subject: [ros-diffs] [ekohl] 61145: [FASTFAT] >> FsdGetFsVolumeInformation: Return volume creation time. >>>>>>>> Author: ekohl >>>>>>>> Date: Fri Nov 29 14:05:43 2013 >>>>>>>> New Revision: 61145 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > > > _______________________________________________ > Ros-dev mailing list > Ros-dev@reactos.org > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev -- Pierre Schweitzer<pierre at reactos.org> System Administrator ReactOS Foundation
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