On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 18:39:07 +0000, Chris Cannam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 01 Aug 2004 14:30, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > But as for the first link, it reminds me another complain from that > > musician. He said that all of the dialogs in Logic (I second it > > myself) are much smaller and they requires less space > > That's true. Creating such dialogs is hard, however. This (and related > subjects such as the font sizes in instrument parameter combos) have been > discussed quite a bit recently. All offers of help have always been welcome. > > > Without any offence, how often do you use apps like Logic or Cubase? > > This is basically a roundabout way of saying that I _am_ a little bit offended > by this angle of debate, which really seems to be saying to me that if only > the Rosegarden developers had used Cubase or Logic more, then we would be > more skilled at designing dialogs, or would be able to find thirty hours in > the day for development work, or there would be more of us. Or even hell, we > might have an unlimited amount of money and be able to develop free software > forever and never have to earn.
The most important thing is how developers treat their product. For an opensource product like Rosegarden the right treatment, to my point of view, is "I do it as long as it is fun for me", which is what you, Richard, Guillame and Michael seem to have. The trick is whether you want to make a sound studio app that will be competitive with proprietary solutions like Logic/Cubase/Cakewalk. See, they have proved their existence for 10-15 years or even more at commercial market. They have solutions noone else has. Developers of all those apps have invested money in different surveys (technologies, usability etc.). Ignoring this all is very simple. Rosegarden is a brand outstanding product for Linux. But. How many musicians would move to Linux just because of Rosegarden, like they moved to Logic/Mac OS or like artists move to Maya/IRIX in past years? It's really not about money and not only about functionality. It's also about the way an application is designed/architectured. What I'd like to see in Rosegarden is a clear concept, and idea behind it. I might be hell of blind, but for now I see different approaches to solution of one problem within Rosegarden in several places, which leads me to conclude that the team goes more a functional way than a architectural one. > > There always is a point where we need to be able to look at what we've done > and say "yes, this is good", and if we reach that point without being able to > feel that, then we get dispirited. Richard reached that point at least a > year ago and I think has found it harder to motivate himself for pure > development work ever since. I am more or less at that point now, but when I > look at Rosegarden now, I believe that it is a good and useful program, and > that it is right that we call it feature complete for 1.0 and that we address > only the bugs, not the design flaws or the omissions, for a while. I want > people to at least acknowledge that although it can never be perfect by > design, in terms of function and usability it is one of the best pieces of > music software on Linux and in many ways better than many on other platforms > as well. There will always be other things to do, but we simply can't do > them all. Exactly. The question is what direction the team is going to go and whether it will go anywhere after 1.0. To clarify the last thing about my attitude to Rosegarden's development --- whether I like the way it goes: I wish Rosegarden team would go the way Inkscape's team goes and I wish Rosegarden had same amount of attention Inkscape has. I wish I could help designing better layouts for Rosegarden. Since I'm planning to buy a laptop for home use, this dream may come true. Rosegarden is still The Best Musician's Software Ever for me in Linux world, whatever cool Paul D. and his team did. Alexandre ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ Rosegarden-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-devel
