William,

I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that many large instituional
providers submit claims to dozens, if not more, payers. I suspect that only
smaller providers that may be in more rural rather than large urban centers,
might deal with only a few payers.

Thus far the discussion here seems to be between William and me. I'd much
prefer to hear from the actual players in these various scenarios:
providers, payers and clearinghouse.

Rachel

-----Original Message-----
From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 12:51 PM
To: WEDi/SNIP ID & Routing
Subject: TCS: Payor identification codes for 837I


An interesting question re: Identifiers posted to hipaalive yesterday
causes me to come up with some of my own:

This request reminds me of the periodic queries for directories of SCAC
codes that arise on the general purpose EDI-L mailing list:  I always
wonder why people just don't ask their (relatively few) carriers for the
respective codes.  Likewise, wouldn't a provider (even an institutional
one) be dealing as a participating provider with relatively few payers,
and hence only need those payers' NAIC codes? - i.e., would there really
be a need for a NAIC directory?  Does COB complicate the matter? - i.e.,
the secondary payer may be known only by name, assuming it's provided by
the patient.  Is the NAIC commonly used as the receiver (or sender)
field of the ISA?

Rachel: corral me in if I'm making any unwarranted assumptions!

William J. Kammerer
Novannet, LLC.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, 18 January, 2002 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: TCS: Payor identification codes for 837I


The National Association of Insurance Commissioners issues an identifier
to nationally significant carriers.  Their database enumerates over
6,000 indemnity and managed care life, accident and health care payers.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Marcus E. McCrory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 6:48 AM
  To: HIPAAlive Discussion List
  Subject: [hipaalive] TCS: Payor identification codes for 837I


  *** HIPAAlive! From Phoenix Health Systems/HIPAAdvisory.com ***
  Regarding 2010BC-NM109 (page 127) & 2330B-NM109 (page 410) of the 837
institutional guide, what currently serves as a central repository for
all of the payor identification codes for different plans/payors
throughout the country in the absence of a national identifier?  Am I
missing a previously published list or well known resource?

  Thank you


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