Regarding the unique routing ID for the payor (NAIC code?)... whatever it 
is, MUST be maintained in a central directory.  At least, that's my vote as 
a small provider.  People walk through my door unpredictably with all sorts 
of insurance plans and if it was EASY/PAINLESS to determine where to send a 
standard elig. query and/or a std. claim, then I'd be less inclined to 
require the patient to pay cash and duke it out on his own with his 
insurance company.  A central payor address/routing directory seems like a 
vital component.

-Chris

At 03:09 PM 1/19/02 -0600, you wrote:
>William,
>
>I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that many large instituional
>providers submit claims to dozens, if not more, payers. I suspect that only
>smaller providers that may be in more rural rather than large urban centers,
>might deal with only a few payers.
>
>Thus far the discussion here seems to be between William and me. I'd much
>prefer to hear from the actual players in these various scenarios:
>providers, payers and clearinghouse.
>
>Rachel
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 12:51 PM
>To: WEDi/SNIP ID & Routing
>Subject: TCS: Payor identification codes for 837I
>
>
>An interesting question re: Identifiers posted to hipaalive yesterday
>causes me to come up with some of my own:
>
>This request reminds me of the periodic queries for directories of SCAC
>codes that arise on the general purpose EDI-L mailing list:  I always
>wonder why people just don't ask their (relatively few) carriers for the
>respective codes.  Likewise, wouldn't a provider (even an institutional
>one) be dealing as a participating provider with relatively few payers,
>and hence only need those payers' NAIC codes? - i.e., would there really
>be a need for a NAIC directory?  Does COB complicate the matter? - i.e.,
>the secondary payer may be known only by name, assuming it's provided by
>the patient.  Is the NAIC commonly used as the receiver (or sender)
>field of the ISA?
>
>Rachel: corral me in if I'm making any unwarranted assumptions!
>
>William J. Kammerer
>Novannet, LLC.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeffrey Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, 18 January, 2002 11:12 AM
>Subject: RE: TCS: Payor identification codes for 837I
>
>
>The National Association of Insurance Commissioners issues an identifier
>to nationally significant carriers.  Their database enumerates over
>6,000 indemnity and managed care life, accident and health care payers.
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Marcus E. McCrory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 6:48 AM
>   To: HIPAAlive Discussion List
>   Subject: [hipaalive] TCS: Payor identification codes for 837I
>
>
>   *** HIPAAlive! From Phoenix Health Systems/HIPAAdvisory.com ***
>   Regarding 2010BC-NM109 (page 127) & 2330B-NM109 (page 410) of the 837
>institutional guide, what currently serves as a central repository for
>all of the payor identification codes for different plans/payors
>throughout the country in the absence of a national identifier?  Am I
>missing a previously published list or well known resource?
>
>   Thank you

Christopher J. Feahr, OD
http://visiondatastandard.org
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