On Monday, 01 September 2008 at 14:48, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > On 21.08.2008 18:43, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > >On Monday, 11 August 2008 at 07:01, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > >>About the other package. I'm not going to touch that package ever in RPM > >>Fusion and I more and more agree with those people that asked not to > >>ship it. So IOW: Somebody else needs to branch, import, build and sign > >>that package. > >I don't know if you read my reply on IRC, but strictly speaking, you > >have already done that by branching, importing and signing MPlayer > >builds. MPlayer contains a copy of libdvdcss. > > I know, but the source here in Germany is not the problem afaik; OTHO > distributing an binary app or lib that is directly able to circumvent > css is afaik.
I can't comment on that. AFAIK it is not illegal in Poland, unless there's a EU-wide legislation that makes it illegal. > > [...] > >>Can't remember, but I think so; it iirc uses the package in question > >>dynamically if needed. > >Indeed, but users still need to get that package from somewhere. > > And I'd say that "somewhere" is the better place (ยน) as having a > compiled libdvdcss in the repos in my humble opinion might be > problematic for these reasons: > > * we already lost one major long-term Fedora and Livna contributor > from Europe because he feared to contribute to a repo that might contain > libdvdcss. > > * There are likely a lot more Fedora contributors that won't > contribute to RPM Fusion (livna showed that in the past) as long as > there is a package like libdvdcss in the repos, as libdvdcss is one > level more problematic that all the other stuff we have. > > * I hope that we in the long term can cooperate with proprietary > software companies to get their software (things like flash, adobe > reader and similar stuff) into our nonfree repo; that will liekly never > work if we have libdvdcss in the repo > > * it could create trouble for people mirroring or using RPM Fusion; > thus some people will decide not to mirror or use RPM Fusion Granted, though the fear of libdvdcss is hopefully unfounded and based on the confusion with libcss which used a CSS key extracted from one of the commercial players to unlock DVDs. I still want to maintain libdvdcss and have no problems doing it. Regards, R. -- Fedora http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rathann Livna http://rpm.livna.org | MPlayer http://mplayerhq.hu "Faith manages." -- Delenn to Lennier in Babylon 5:"Confessions and Lamentations"
