Pekka, thanks for playing that record again, I got familiar with LHIP - which is a very interesting draft, indeed.
-- patte On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Pekka Nikander<[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry for sounding like a broken record player, but I have a strong deja vu. > >> Not so interesting but it gets better if the host identifier is added to >> the DNS record. > > RFC5205 > >> By adding a host identifier to the DNS record the NAPT box could accept >> traffic from the Internet and redirect it to the correct host in the private >> network. > > See draft-ietf-hip-nat-traversal-08.txt and draft-melen-spinat-01.txt for > two different ways. > >> How then to achieve multi-homing? > > RFC5206 > >> If this is really doable the outcome is that PI-addresses are no >> longer attractive, you can publish services towards Internet with your >> internal addressing scheme - the routing architecture of an >> organization is an internal affair and Internet doesn't need to know >> about how it is constructed. But still external customers, partners >> etc. can reach your published services with the help of the host >> identifier. > > I completely agree. Those were some of our goals. > >> It seems that adding a host identifier to the Internet architecture >> will provide better visibility of end-to-end connectivity and at the >> same time hide more the routing architecture, interesting... > > I think we wrote something about those already in RFC4423. (And others > before that, see e.g. NIMROD...) > > ------- > > [Then I hear all the usual objections on HIP from the list. To them: Yes, > you can use HIP without ESP (but we still need someone to define exact how). > Yes, we can use HIP without public key crypto, see > draft-heer-hip-lhip-00.txt. No, architecturally HIP does not necessarily > add packet size as it can use any flow identifier as a proxy for host > identifier. No, HIP does not necessarily add delay when opening TCP with > legacy hosts, draft-lindqvist-hip-tcp-piggybacking-00.txt. > > Ducking back wondering why people want to invent the same again and > again...] > > --Pekka Nikander > > _______________________________________________ rrg mailing list [email protected] http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/rrg
