On Jul 8, 2009, at 7:53 PM, Christian Vogt wrote:

Hi Lixia -

I certainly agree with your winning strategy. And if you prefer not to
discuss identifiers on this mailing list, so be it.

it is not an issue of any individual's preference.
Rather,
- this list got its own mission to accomplish;
and perhaps more importantly,
- it is unclear whether people who know more about the higher level requirements on identifiers are watching this list.

agree?

I still would like to observe, though, that a good understanding of what
needs to be identified may prove helpful in devising the locators that
must lead to the things being identified.

agree on the good understanding part.
I avoid the word "locator", as what we have in hand is simply IP addresses, whose basic function is to identify the attachment point of destinations to which IP packets are delivered, independent from which identifier resolved to that delivery address.

make sense?

This said, I do understand your impatience to bring the discussion to
the core topic of this research group.

impatience? not sure what led to that... maybe my poor English expressions. but honest, I have all the patience:-)

my goal is trying to focus the attention on our own mission (I assume everyone still remembers that we have this March deadline for a routing scalability recommendation:)

 This, in fact, reminds me of a
result from the Dagstuhl workshop in March, which the research group
didn't yet evaluate -- namely, the following set of locator properties:

- topologically sensitive

- multihoming‐capable

- local and constant cost for topological changes

Would a discussion of these locator properties be in scope?

of course.

Lixia

On Jul 8, 2009, Lixia Zhang wrote:

top posting:

- it is a generally accepted notion that some sort of identifier(s)
 needs to be added to the existing architecture (I'm writing up a
 short notes on my own understanding of why now, and why *not* day
 one)

- since god did not write us a bible on how to design networks, we have
 to learn as we go.  And one of the things I have learned from last
 30 years: never be too sure about the future's need.  A winning
 strategy seems including the following ingredients: + start simple,
 and + stay flexible, keep the mind open.

Along that line of thought: we need to understand the interplay between address (used for routing) and this forthcoming identifier thing, but I
would keep the focus on address/routing, not nailing down the exactly
numbers and definitions of identifiers.

Lixia




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