In einer eMail vom 14.07.2009 19:47:16 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt
[email protected]:

On Jul  12, 2009, [email protected] wrote:

> Let's put it differently:  Incremental deployability requires still BGP
> to overcome the main  function of BGP which is the non-scalable way to
> disseminate all these  hundred thousands of prefixes. The methods are 
> not
> new:  Remember  BGP-based dissemination of MPLS-VPN sites (just lacking
>  the goal to build ONE SINGLE "internet-VPN") : here the information  
> are
> labels, i.e. not IP addresses. Also remember LISP's  default mapper.
> Issueing a prefix of length 0 might attract traffic  destined for a
> node
> which doesn't propagate its  traditional reachability prefixes anymore
> but just new routing info  for a new architecture, analogously to the
>  MPLS-labels.


Heiner -

I agree with the argument that IP  addresses could theoretically be
replaced in their role of locators.   Although I would add that the
feasibility of this heavily depends on the  deployment model:
Absolutely. The model must a) work, b) be incrementally deployable and c)
solve all the problems that are due to the state-of-art though bad
architecture:  abolish the scalability problem (even if the internet were a 
millions
times  bigger),overcome the IPv4 address depletion issue, cater for
multihoming,  make Moore's law  become applicable and finally  enable much 
better TE
 by also providing the view to the rear ( who else would use THIS router
for  transit to get to some destination down in the forward direction.)
I wouldn't emphasize all these  objectives if my model didn't  enable them
:-)

LISP proxies are not a good example because they require IP  addresses
as locators to route packets towards a proxy.  On the other  hand, APT's
deployment model -- which calls for initial local deployment  and
subsequent expansion -- could facilitate the introduction of  new
locators.  Of course, those new locators would have to be suitable  for
use across administratively discontinuous providers, like IP  addresses.

LISP is an attempt to rescue the existing model and the existing
paradigms.(called jack-up model)
While most people praise the existing paradigms and e.g. think that
caching is a nice enhancement thereof  I rather believe that caching is a
built-in repair system of an old/bad architecture from the start.

Heiner



- Christian





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