On Jul 15, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Scott Brim wrote:

Lixia Zhang allegedly wrote on 07/15/2009 1:42 PM:
Do you think the session need to have a globally unique identifier or locally agreed between the endpoints during the contact establishment?

I've seen multiple mentioning about "sessions", but yet to see a clear
definition of it.

Lixia,

First informally: You know what it is.  Why do you need it rigorously
defined?

1/ I honestly do not know. Citing Joel's comment here: does a session mean the combination of two ends? do we care unicast/multicast sessions? how lasting/transient is a session (hence the life time of its ID)? etc etc.

2/ more fundamentally: when I program, maybe I could say "I know what each part does" and dont define rigorous interface (but still, that is NOT good practice) But here we are talking about a big architecture. As I've seen, even a term with a definition often gets different interpretation by different people, let alone a term without a clear definition!

But I would like to step up a level and repeat what I said earlier:
1/ I do not think it is in our charter to define how many identifiers we ought to have, or what they ought to be.
2/ Our job is to figureout scalable routing architecture.
3/ We need to have a good understanding about the interplay between addresses and identifiers, no less and also no more.

Related to the last point: I had planned to get a short draft out on the terminology discussion we had at SF IETF before the draft 00 deadline but you all know by now that I did not get there. I am still trying to finish it in coming days, to get it ready for discussion at Stockholm.

Lixia
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