On  3 Aug 2009, at 21:50, Xu Xiaohu wrote:
in the current CGA specification [RFC3972], the
prefix is used as one of the inputs for the hash algorithms. If the subnet
prefix (locator in ILNP) changed due to mobility or multihoming event,
should the identifier be regenerated? If so, it seems conflict with the
statement of "constant identifier as node move " in your slides.

It is not required that ALL Identifiers used by a node remain constant.
It is helpful if at least one Identifier does remain constant, at least
for the duration of a given session.

I'd really suggest studying the ILNP papers and I-Ds once again.

Due to the above reasons, in my RANGI proposal (called HRA previously,
http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-xu-rangi-01.txt), the Administrative Domain (AD) ID replaces the routing prefix as one of the inputs for generating host identifiers. The AD ID is stable and will remain constant during mobility
and multihoming.

I haven't read your proposal, so I can't comment on it.

Then you must make some change to the session. e.g., extending the 5 tuples
of TCP session to 6 tuples.

Your sentence above is not clear.

What I can say is that ILNP doesn't break anything. ILNP is not identical to IPv6, particularly in that they have somewhat different architectures. ILNP does provide a superset of IPv6 capabilities in an IPv6 friendly way.

Since the sessions are bound to identifiers, wouldn't the sessions
be disrupted by changing the identifiers?

No.  ILNP already supports a node having more than one valid
Identifier at a given point in time.

Yes, but the rules do not say the IID must be unique globally. Hence, there is a possiblity that two nodes located in different subnet use the same IID
(i.e., identifier in ILNP)

That case was discussed at length yesterday.  ILNP does not have
a problem with 2 nodes accidentally using the same Node ID with
different Locator values.

Not exactly. IPv6 uses the combination of routing prefix+IID as session identifier, and this idenfier ought to be unique globally. However, in ILNP,
the IID part is used as identifier, which is not globally unique.

PLEASE go re-read the ILNP document set.  ILNP requires that a Node ID
is unique *within the context of a given Locator*. ILNP does not require
that a Node ID be globally unique.

However, we shouldn't exclude the possibility of using DNS to realize the same goal.

ILNP doesn't exclude that.

PLEASE go re-read the ILNP document set.  It is pretty clear
that you haven't read it recently, from your several points of
confusion.

Yours,

Ran
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