On Friday 4 September 2009 10:57:50 [email protected] wrote: > In einer eMail vom 03.09.2009 23:20:15 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt > [email protected]: > > > Heiner, > > > > My vision is that identity of nodes is to be based on relations with other > > nodes. > > > Whereas my vision is that identity of nodes is to be based on relations to > a neutral third and ever fix grid of "virtual/logical/abstract nodes". > Otherwise you can map&encap to death. > My impression: people don't want to abolish problems, they rather want to > keep them as a permanent task to be mastered: scalability, looping...
"We fix it this way. Who needs a general solution?" > They can imagine Scoped Anycast, but not Scoped Anywhere of Unicast > users.Here I cannot blame MIP4. They did an excellent job adopting a new > requirement to a concept where roaming was not on the radar screen. > LISP-ALT is a > centralized care-of-address concept. What if both users roam as well as > nodes? Potentially all users and all nodes? And even if you ignored the > resulting new scalability and stretch problems you cannot even provide Scoped > > Anywhere service. > However if a mobile node roamed within a particular geopatch no change of > information is to be sent to the rest of the world, and also: you may > provide the service to search for the destination in its "neighborhood" > eventually without a home agent. By doing less you get much more... > > > > > Especially, mutual knowledge of location within the general network. > > Maintaining this knowledge continuously and all over the network shall > > make node mobility natural and inconspicuous. > > I seek understanding and opinions on this vision, > > > > and I disfavor non-network based identity. > > > > without any deeper reasoning ? If node identity depends on a network-external place-based grid and the place of networking changes, then identity becomes legacy. The general network is to be ubiquitous and shall have the solutions of its problems within itself. > Heiner > > > Regards, Toni _______________________________________________ rrg mailing list [email protected] http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/rrg
