On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Tim Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you very much Aslak. That looks great. FWIW I have taught a > class "Executable Requirements with FitNesse" as the director of > training and coaching at Valtech and on the faculty of agile > university. I went back to a real job recently and am now employed on > a new enterprise class RoR project as the requirements manager and QA > dude rolled in to one. In my analysis and discussions with others it > looks like we're putting a stake in the ground around Cucumber (having > passed through the Rails Integration testing, RubyFIT and other > approaches along the way). I'm sure we'll have lots of questions. It
Thanks for sharing that Tim. I take that as a confirmation that we're doing something right here :-) > really is awesome stuff and am looking forward to this project with > more excitement than I've felt in a long time (and I'm a fairly old > dude, programming in assembler, fortran, c and even 360/40 JCL in my > career). Seeing what you guys are doing is just over-the-top cool. BDD > is great, Domain Driven Design is great. Stuff I wish I knew 20 years Isn't it great to be in a field where you can feel there is some progress and learning? 80% of what you find in BDD, RSpec and Cucumber comes from elsewhere. Here is a list that I have often used when I present BDD so people can go and dig fro more. TDD/JUnit - Kent Beck FIT - Ward Cunningham Example Driven Development - Brian Marick User Stories - Connextra team (Nolan, MacKinnon et al) BDD daddys - Chris "business value" Matts and Dan "tastapod" North ATDD/ATDP - Richard Watt and David Leigh-Fellows (I might be wrong on origin) DDD/Ubiq Language - Eric Evans The RSpec list - the catalyst of bringing all of this into a consistent whole > ago. Requirements are the tests that implement them, not a separate > SRS, they are the same thing. Literally. We want to do away with > defect tracking and just write tests that reproduce them and break the > build, treated like any other story. Your work makes all this > possible. > Can I quote you on this? I need it for my campaign. Aslak > Sincerely, > > Tim > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 4:38 PM, aslak hellesoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Tim Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Thanks guys, I may have overlooked some of the stuff there. A lot of >>> what I was looking for was in the "Step Organization" page. >>> >>> Still not clear on some of the dynamic substitutions and syntax, etc. >>> >> >> I just jotted down some basics here: >> http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/wikis/feature-introduction >> >> Please let us know of anything else that needs explaining. >> >> Cheers, >> Aslak >> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Joseph Wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> I suggest you checkout the wiki that Cucumber has on Github . >>>> >>>> http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/wikis >>>> >>>> Lots of useful information. >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> -- >>>> Joseph Wilk >>>> http://www.joesniff.co.uk >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Tim Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> What is the best source for cucumber documentation. I did the rdoc >>>>> thing but that was more of the API view. Is there any usage guides, >>>>> etc. besides the examples and what you get when you download it or is >>>>> the documentation hidden in there and I just didn't see it. >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks in advance! >>>>> >>>>> Tim >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> rspec-users mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> rspec-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> rspec-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> rspec-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users >> > _______________________________________________ > rspec-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users > _______________________________________________ rspec-users mailing list [email protected] http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
