Absolutely and THANKS! Sincerely,
Tim On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:53 AM, aslak hellesoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Tim Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Thank you very much Aslak. That looks great. FWIW I have taught a >> class "Executable Requirements with FitNesse" as the director of >> training and coaching at Valtech and on the faculty of agile >> university. I went back to a real job recently and am now employed on >> a new enterprise class RoR project as the requirements manager and QA >> dude rolled in to one. In my analysis and discussions with others it >> looks like we're putting a stake in the ground around Cucumber (having >> passed through the Rails Integration testing, RubyFIT and other >> approaches along the way). I'm sure we'll have lots of questions. It > > Thanks for sharing that Tim. I take that as a confirmation that we're > doing something right here :-) > >> really is awesome stuff and am looking forward to this project with >> more excitement than I've felt in a long time (and I'm a fairly old >> dude, programming in assembler, fortran, c and even 360/40 JCL in my >> career). Seeing what you guys are doing is just over-the-top cool. BDD >> is great, Domain Driven Design is great. Stuff I wish I knew 20 years > > Isn't it great to be in a field where you can feel there is some > progress and learning? > 80% of what you find in BDD, RSpec and Cucumber comes from elsewhere. > Here is a list > that I have often used when I present BDD so people can go and dig fro more. > > TDD/JUnit - Kent Beck > FIT - Ward Cunningham > Example Driven Development - Brian Marick > User Stories - Connextra team (Nolan, MacKinnon et al) > BDD daddys - Chris "business value" Matts and Dan "tastapod" North > ATDD/ATDP - Richard Watt and David Leigh-Fellows (I might be wrong on origin) > DDD/Ubiq Language - Eric Evans > The RSpec list - the catalyst of bringing all of this into a consistent whole > >> ago. Requirements are the tests that implement them, not a separate >> SRS, they are the same thing. Literally. We want to do away with >> defect tracking and just write tests that reproduce them and break the >> build, treated like any other story. Your work makes all this >> possible. >> > > Can I quote you on this? I need it for my campaign. > > Aslak > >> Sincerely, >> >> Tim >> >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 4:38 PM, aslak hellesoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Tim Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> Thanks guys, I may have overlooked some of the stuff there. A lot of >>>> what I was looking for was in the "Step Organization" page. >>>> >>>> Still not clear on some of the dynamic substitutions and syntax, etc. >>>> >>> >>> I just jotted down some basics here: >>> http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/wikis/feature-introduction >>> >>> Please let us know of anything else that needs explaining. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Aslak >>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Joseph Wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> I suggest you checkout the wiki that Cucumber has on Github . >>>>> >>>>> http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/wikis >>>>> >>>>> Lots of useful information. >>>>> >>>>> HTH >>>>> -- >>>>> Joseph Wilk >>>>> http://www.joesniff.co.uk >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Tim Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> What is the best source for cucumber documentation. I did the rdoc >>>>>> thing but that was more of the API view. Is there any usage guides, >>>>>> etc. besides the examples and what you get when you download it or is >>>>>> the documentation hidden in there and I just didn't see it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks in advance! >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> rspec-users mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> rspec-users mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> rspec-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> rspec-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> rspec-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users >> > _______________________________________________ > rspec-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users > _______________________________________________ rspec-users mailing list [email protected] http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
