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On Sunday 28 June 2020 13:58, Matthias Schniedermeyer <m...@citd.de> wrote:

> On 27.06.2020 11:22, Rupert Gallagher via rsync wrote:
>
> > On Friday 26 June 2020 21:58, Rupert Gallagher via rsync 
> > rsync@lists.samba.org wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > As disks are slow and rsync reads and writes so much that for the bus 
> > > this is the equivalent of context switching galore, would it be possible 
> > > to use RAM as a buffer? Say, you have 10GB of spare RAM, rsync uses the 
> > > bus to its peak for reading 10GB, then again for writing it down. This 
> > > would be more efficient than lot of small read/write operations.
> > > Thank you
> >
> > Current task: rsync 752 GB
> > source disk
> > Writing speed: 77 MB/s
> > Reading speed: 97 MB/s
> > target disk
> > Writing speed: 117 MB/s
> > Reading speed: 99 MB/s
> > Actual time: 380 min (6.3 hours) to copy 648 GB
> > Actual speed: 28 MB/s (648/380 = 1.7 GB min =~ 1700MB min / 60 min = 28MB 
> > sec)
>
> Unfortunatly you left out every other detail.


> Complete rsync commandline?

/usr/local/bin/rsync --recursive --links --times --modify-window=1 --devices 
--specials --update --owner --group --perms --delete --delete-before 
--delete-excluded --exclude-from=/etc/excluded_from_backup.conf --numeric-ids 
--outbuf=Block --inplace --link-dest=/backup/latest/ /archive /backup


> What hardware? (From the numbers it is only clear that you seem to talk about 
> HDDs.)
> What HDDs?

source:
ST2000NX0403  sata hdd
Writing speed      : 117 MB/s
Reading speed      : 99 MB/s

destination:
ST5000LM000-2AN1 sata hdd
Writing speed      : 74 MB/s
Reading speed      : 89 MB/s

> What computer? (Laptop? Desktop? Server? Raspberry Pi? Age?)

Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F, newish

> What "Buses"? ( a) Any modern "bus" is NOT saturated by those numbers. b) All 
> modern "buses" (Except USB, to some degree) are P2P, you can't even connect 2 
> devices to the same bus. (Except USB, but there are usually several 
> controllers so you don't have to use same bus).)

Supermicro CSE-M14TQC 4xSAS/SATA bay, connected with a CBL-SAST-0616(50cm) 
Mini-SAS HD to 4 SATA cable. The CSE receives the 4 sata cables, the mini-sas 
end is plugged on the main board.



> With or without networking involved?

no network involved

> What Filesystem? What mount-options?

FFS2

rw,nodev,nosuid,softdep,noatime

> AVG Filesize? Directory structure? Fragmentation?

mixed

> Are you:
>
> -   Copying 1 752GB File(*)

no

> -   752 1GB Files

no

> -   10.000.000 78KB Files inside a directory-Tree with 10.000.000 Million 
> subdirectories

no

> -   100.000.000 7.8KB Files in 100.000.000 Million subdirectories.

no

>     Personally my usual copying-speed for the "from local XFS formated HDD to 
> local XFS formated USB-3-HDD"-case is about 350GB/Hour (or about 100MB/s.), 
> and that has been the case for years.

I shall be so lucky...


>     *:
>     Even copying 2 different 752GB files can be quite a different monster 
> depending on file-fragmentation.
>     Copying a heavily fragmented file (from a HDD) is slow, even when it is a 
> single big file.
>     HDDs are very "sensitive" to sub-optimal usage, every 'seek' kills of 
> several ms where 0KB can be read/written.
>     The worst-case performance (or IOPS) of a HDD is counted in KB/s(!!), if 
> you have to seek after every sector read or written.
>
>     --
>
>     Matthias
>



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