NCAA Justice......  Isn't that a contradiction in terms?
Joe
"Ninety-nine percent of failures come from people who have the habit of
making excuses." - George Washington.

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(but what do I know about NCAA justice?).
Rick

Joe Goodson wrote:

>Thomas Yeager does not have the balls to smack down the 1st Black coach in
>the SEC.  They will get a slap on the wrist like Notre Dumb.
>Joe
>"Ninety-nine percent of failures come from people who have the habit of
>making excuses." - George Washington.
>
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>What do y'all think? Will they get hammered or get a slap on the hand?
>Will the hiring of Croom make a difference?  Pretty serious stuff, every
>bit as serious as what Bama was nailed for.
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>Rick
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>>NCAA: Improper conduct by Sherrill, assistants
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>>By RALPH D. RUSSO
>>The Associated Press
>>12/8/03 9:42 PM
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>>JACKSON, Miss. (AP) -- A Mississippi State recruit's grandfather told
>>investigators that retired coach Jackie Sherrill offered to provide
>>the player a car, the NCAA said in its report on alleged rules
>>violations by the football program.
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>>The 22-page document, released Monday by the school, lists 13 possible
>>violations that occurred from 1998-02.
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>>Several of the alleged violations involved assistant coach Glenn Davis
>>and former assistant Jerry Fremin giving cash and gifts and offering
>>improper benefits to prospective student-athletes and their families.
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>>Mississippi State's response to the NCAA's notice of allegations,
>>known as an official letter of inquiry, is due by March 2.
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>>A message left for Sherrill at his home was not immediately returned
>>Monday night.
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>>Athletic director Larry Templeton said the university would not
>>comment on the allegations or the specifics of the investigation until
>>the university's attorneys submit a response.
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>>Mississippi State has been cooperating with the NCAA and assisting
>>with the investigation for the past 2½ years, the university said in a
>>release.
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>>There were no allegations of academic misconduct or of lack of
>>institutional control, the most serious charge that could be brought
>>by the NCAA.
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>>In March, Mississippi State received a preliminary letter of inquiry
>>from the NCAA which said it was looking into the possibility of those
>>types of violations.
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>>Mississippi State hired Sylvester Croom last week to replace Sherrill,
>>making Croom the first black head football coach in the Southeastern
>>Conference.
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>>The Bulldogs are 8-27 since 2001, with just three Southeastern
>>Conference victories. They were 2-10 this season, the school's worst
>>since 1988.
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>>Sherrill, who retired last month after 13 seasons with Mississippi
>>State, was mentioned in two of allegations.
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>>One involved the recruitment of Joseph Scott, a linebacker from
>>Hattiesburg (Miss.) High School who ended up signing with Southern
>>Mississippi. The other involved the recruitment of offensive lineman
>>Chris Spencer, an offensive lineman from Madison Central (Miss.) High
>>School who attends Mississippi.
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>>According the notice of allegations, the mother of a Mississippi State
>>student-athlete told Scott's grandmother, Ardasene Scott, during a
>>phone conversation that Sherrill got her son "a nice ride."
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>>During another telephone conversation, Ardasene Scott asked Fremin if
>>Sherrill would obtain a vehicle for her grandson. Fremin told the
>>woman that Sherrill would discuss that matter during Joseph Scott's
>>official visit to Mississippi State and "take care of it," according
>>to the NCAA's report.
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>>On Scott's official visit, Sherrill told Scott's grandfather that he
>>was "working on what they had been talking about," the report states.
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>>Scott's grandfather told his wife that their grandson would not attend
>>Mississippi State because he believed Sherrill offered them a car, the
>>report stated.
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>>Scott transferred from Southern Miss, played in junior college and is
>>now attending Jackson State.
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>>In the other case involving Sherrill, Spencer's stepfather, Ben
>>Wallace, said Sherrill told him that he would make sure that Spencer
>>and his family were taken care of, and that if Wallace was in need of
>>employment or anything, to call Sherrill, the NCAA report stated.
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>>Fremin, who worked as an offensive line coach for Mississippi State
>>for four seasons, was accused in the report of paying travel and
>>lodging expenses for an unofficial recruitment visit Scott made to
>>Starkville.
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>>The report also alleged that Fremin arranged for a Mississippi State
>>booster to make improper contact with recruits and arrange
>>impermissible employment for prospective student-athletes.
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>>Fremin resigned in March 2001. The university cited health reasons.
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>>On his attorney's recommendation, Fremin declined to comment on the
>>report.
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>>Among the allegations against Davis, he's accused of giving a recruit,
>>Kenneth Griffith of Brandon High School, $800 to pay for summer school
>>classes Griffith needed to be able to satisfy the NCAA's initial
>>eligibility requirements.
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>>Davis denied any wrongdoing when the allegation was first reported by
>>a newspaper in April.
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>>Griffith signed with Southern Miss, but ended up attending junior
>>college.
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>>Mississippi State's football program was found guilty of major NCAA
>>infractions in 1996 and received one year probation and a loss of
>>scholarships.
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>>Because the current allegations go back to 1998, Mississippi State
>>could be dealt with as a repeat violator by the NCAA, which could lead
>>to harsher penalties being imposed.
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