Shouldn't be, but yes it is.

Rick

Joe Goodson wrote:

NCAA Justice......  Isn't that a contradiction in terms?
Joe
"Ninety-nine percent of failures come from people who have the habit of
making excuses." - George Washington.

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(but what do I know about NCAA justice?). Rick

Joe Goodson wrote:



Thomas Yeager does not have the balls to smack down the 1st Black coach in
the SEC.  They will get a slap on the wrist like Notre Dumb.
Joe
"Ninety-nine percent of failures come from people who have the habit of
making excuses." - George Washington.

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What do y'all think? Will they get hammered or get a slap on the hand? Will the hiring of Croom make a difference? Pretty serious stuff, every bit as serious as what Bama was nailed for.

Rick

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http://www.al.com/sportsflash/collegefootball/index.ssf?/newsflash/get_stor


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NCAA: Improper conduct by Sherrill, assistants

By RALPH D. RUSSO
The Associated Press
12/8/03 9:42 PM

JACKSON, Miss. (AP) -- A Mississippi State recruit's grandfather told
investigators that retired coach Jackie Sherrill offered to provide
the player a car, the NCAA said in its report on alleged rules
violations by the football program.

The 22-page document, released Monday by the school, lists 13 possible
violations that occurred from 1998-02.

Several of the alleged violations involved assistant coach Glenn Davis
and former assistant Jerry Fremin giving cash and gifts and offering
improper benefits to prospective student-athletes and their families.

Mississippi State's response to the NCAA's notice of allegations,
known as an official letter of inquiry, is due by March 2.

A message left for Sherrill at his home was not immediately returned
Monday night.

Athletic director Larry Templeton said the university would not
comment on the allegations or the specifics of the investigation until
the university's attorneys submit a response.

Mississippi State has been cooperating with the NCAA and assisting
with the investigation for the past 2½ years, the university said in a
release.

There were no allegations of academic misconduct or of lack of
institutional control, the most serious charge that could be brought
by the NCAA.

In March, Mississippi State received a preliminary letter of inquiry


from the NCAA which said it was looking into the possibility of those


types of violations.

Mississippi State hired Sylvester Croom last week to replace Sherrill,
making Croom the first black head football coach in the Southeastern
Conference.

The Bulldogs are 8-27 since 2001, with just three Southeastern
Conference victories. They were 2-10 this season, the school's worst
since 1988.

Sherrill, who retired last month after 13 seasons with Mississippi
State, was mentioned in two of allegations.

One involved the recruitment of Joseph Scott, a linebacker from
Hattiesburg (Miss.) High School who ended up signing with Southern
Mississippi. The other involved the recruitment of offensive lineman
Chris Spencer, an offensive lineman from Madison Central (Miss.) High
School who attends Mississippi.

According the notice of allegations, the mother of a Mississippi State
student-athlete told Scott's grandmother, Ardasene Scott, during a
phone conversation that Sherrill got her son "a nice ride."

During another telephone conversation, Ardasene Scott asked Fremin if
Sherrill would obtain a vehicle for her grandson. Fremin told the
woman that Sherrill would discuss that matter during Joseph Scott's
official visit to Mississippi State and "take care of it," according
to the NCAA's report.

On Scott's official visit, Sherrill told Scott's grandfather that he
was "working on what they had been talking about," the report states.

Scott's grandfather told his wife that their grandson would not attend
Mississippi State because he believed Sherrill offered them a car, the
report stated.

Scott transferred from Southern Miss, played in junior college and is
now attending Jackson State.

In the other case involving Sherrill, Spencer's stepfather, Ben
Wallace, said Sherrill told him that he would make sure that Spencer
and his family were taken care of, and that if Wallace was in need of
employment or anything, to call Sherrill, the NCAA report stated.

Fremin, who worked as an offensive line coach for Mississippi State
for four seasons, was accused in the report of paying travel and
lodging expenses for an unofficial recruitment visit Scott made to
Starkville.

The report also alleged that Fremin arranged for a Mississippi State
booster to make improper contact with recruits and arrange
impermissible employment for prospective student-athletes.

Fremin resigned in March 2001. The university cited health reasons.

On his attorney's recommendation, Fremin declined to comment on the
report.

Among the allegations against Davis, he's accused of giving a recruit,
Kenneth Griffith of Brandon High School, $800 to pay for summer school
classes Griffith needed to be able to satisfy the NCAA's initial
eligibility requirements.

Davis denied any wrongdoing when the allegation was first reported by
a newspaper in April.

Griffith signed with Southern Miss, but ended up attending junior
college.

Mississippi State's football program was found guilty of major NCAA
infractions in 1996 and received one year probation and a loss of
scholarships.

Because the current allegations go back to 1998, Mississippi State
could be dealt with as a repeat violator by the NCAA, which could lead
to harsher penalties being imposed.




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