Were all the deaths from the 2nd world war needless and futile?  If not,
then why are the deaths from this war needless and futile?  You are
insinuating that a serviceman's supreme sacrifice to his country and the
cause of freedom is needless and pointless when they are doing their duty
that the VOLUNTEERED to do?  I  think you might want to RE think your
position (assuming you put some thought into your position).

Joe
A government which robs Peter to pay Paul
can always depend on the support of Paul.
 -- George Bernard Shaw
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:48 AM
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] RE: NON Tide - "Was the war in Iraq worth it?"


>
>
> Let's see.....
> I don't know that I ever said I actually cared (meaning that I spent time
in
> thought about the subject and was touched by it) about the deaths
overseas.
> I'm sure you have all my posts, so browse through them and see if I did. I
> think all the deaths are tragic, but more importantly they are, up to this
> point, needless and futile. I base that on the explicit argument that
Dubya
> gave for going over there in the first place. Something about WMD that
were
> an 'imminent threat to the US'...????
>
> As far as a soldier's death, while tragic, its what they signed up for.
> Everyone who signs up knows full well that they may be called to action
and
> may in fact give their life in the line of duty. I simply hate that
American
> lives are being extinguished so people in another country can live better.
> We hear all about how they died 'defending our freedom'. That's BS. They
> died in order to liberate a country that most people over here could care
> less about. To die by actually defending our freedom is admirable. To die
> for the reasons now stated as to why we are in Iraq is pitiful.
>
> If in fact our freedom was being threatened, we should have been more
> precise and forceful to start with. And after the dust settled, leave the
> area for those who remain and let them pick up the pieces.
>
> Now. No, I'm not a vegetarian. I like nothing better than wings or a good
> hamburger. Does that mean I condone the needless abuse and neglect that
many
> dogs and cats face? Nope. Animals that are raised for food products should
> be treated decently and slaughtered in ways that are humane. Since we, as
> humans, are supposed to be the lead animal, we should know better than to
> kill other animals in ways that inflict useless pain on them. Animals that
> are raised as companions (please see the Queen's post regarding the
> differences between pets and companions) should be taken care of as if
they
> are one of the family (as really they are). Folks that abuse or neglect
> companions don't deserve the air they breathe.
>
> Oh, the count is 602 as of this morning.
>
> Tim sez:
> Not only is you your moral compass broken, but you continue to show your
> idiocy. In the above post you negated every post you have ever made
> regarding death in Iraq by admitting that death means nothing to you,
> especially if you don't have a personal relationship with the deceased.
Oh,
> I'm sorry maybe you were referring to all the other people and not
yourself,
> please clarify your position Mr. Kerry 'cause it appears you are
> flip-flopping on the issue.
>
> Since you appear to value animal life more than human life, I will simply
> remind you of that foolishness as you post your "600 and counting" posts
> henceforward. Are you a vegetarian? Or, is 600 the number of chickens you
> grazed through last year?
>
>
>
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