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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics
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Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] With Kines, this is what is missed...


> Kines was not a good D coorinator the first time and
> won't be now.  For the life of me I can't figure out
> why CMS would consult Perkins when he still has his
> dad
>
> RTR
> LC
>
> --- Terry Pellman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > When Shula got the HC job, his *mentor* on how to
> > handle operations was Joe Kines.  Granted, Oliver
> > ran a good D, but his ship has long been sunk.  Even
> > with a new AD, sunk.  If Kines goes anywhere soon,
> > it'll be to an *office* position.
> >
> > You like the way Shula is handling the HC
> > job...consider who his advisor is.  It's not his
> > Dad, it's not CMM...
> >
> > Now, I don't like the fashion in which a few things
> > broke down last year...but, the thought/notion it
> > falls on Kines shoulders?  Ain't so.  In fact, a lot
> > of it falls on DuBose/fRan and the type of players
> > they brought in.
> >
> > T
> >
> >
> > --- "Pat Smoot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't believe at Brother Bill's age, he is going
> > to be after the head
> > coach position any more.  His defenses win
> > championships & that's all I care
> > about.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Tim Boozer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics
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> > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:38 AM
> > Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of
> > Oliver?
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Behalf Of Pat Smoot
> > > > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:48 AM
> > > > To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama
> > Athletics Discussion List
> > > > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of
> > Oliver?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm still chanting for him & the season hasn't
> > even started yet.  I have
> > > > zero faith in Kines.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'm with you on the zero faith in Kines part, but
> > I'm still straddling the
> > > fence on Oliver. No doubt he is one of the best
> > defensive minds ever, but
> > > I'm not sure that his dreams of getting the head
> > coaching job are totally
> > > out of his head. He could end up undermining Shula
> > every chance he got and
> > > become a cancer on the staff. Right now, I would
> > probably be on the side
> > of
> > > "get rid of Kines and leave Oliver at the lake
> > with the grandkids."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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