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----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] With Kines, this is what is missed... > Kines was not a good D coorinator the first time and > won't be now. For the life of me I can't figure out > why CMS would consult Perkins when he still has his > dad > > RTR > LC > > --- Terry Pellman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > When Shula got the HC job, his *mentor* on how to > > handle operations was Joe Kines. Granted, Oliver > > ran a good D, but his ship has long been sunk. Even > > with a new AD, sunk. If Kines goes anywhere soon, > > it'll be to an *office* position. > > > > You like the way Shula is handling the HC > > job...consider who his advisor is. It's not his > > Dad, it's not CMM... > > > > Now, I don't like the fashion in which a few things > > broke down last year...but, the thought/notion it > > falls on Kines shoulders? Ain't so. In fact, a lot > > of it falls on DuBose/fRan and the type of players > > they brought in. > > > > T > > > > > > --- "Pat Smoot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't believe at Brother Bill's age, he is going > > to be after the head > > coach position any more. His defenses win > > championships & that's all I care > > about. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tim Boozer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics > > Discussion List" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:38 AM > > Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of > > Oliver? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Behalf Of Pat Smoot > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:48 AM > > > > To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama > > Athletics Discussion List > > > > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of > > Oliver? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm still chanting for him & the season hasn't > > even started yet. I have > > > > zero faith in Kines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm with you on the zero faith in Kines part, but > > I'm still straddling the > > > fence on Oliver. No doubt he is one of the best > > defensive minds ever, but > > > I'm not sure that his dreams of getting the head > > coaching job are totally > > > out of his head. He could end up undermining Shula > > every chance he got and > > > become a cancer on the staff. Right now, I would > > probably be on the side > > of > > > "get rid of Kines and leave Oliver at the lake > > with the grandkids." > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > > Discussion List > > > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to > > your subscription visit > > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > > Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! 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