One other thing...take a minute and compare Oliver and Kines and their tenures/results/stats in their respective seasons here. You won't find a lot of difference.
Oliver gets a lot of credit...but a lot of it he doesn't deserve. T --- Steven Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kines was not a good D coorinator the first time and won't be now. For the life of me I can't figure out why CMS would consult Perkins when he still has his dad RTR LC --- Terry Pellman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > When Shula got the HC job, his *mentor* on how to > handle operations was Joe Kines. Granted, Oliver > ran a good D, but his ship has long been sunk. Even > with a new AD, sunk. If Kines goes anywhere soon, > it'll be to an *office* position. > > You like the way Shula is handling the HC > job...consider who his advisor is. It's not his > Dad, it's not CMM... > > Now, I don't like the fashion in which a few things > broke down last year...but, the thought/notion it > falls on Kines shoulders? Ain't so. In fact, a lot > of it falls on DuBose/fRan and the type of players > they brought in. > > T > > > --- "Pat Smoot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't believe at Brother Bill's age, he is going > to be after the head > coach position any more. His defenses win > championships & that's all I care > about. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Boozer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:38 AM > Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of > Oliver? > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Behalf Of Pat Smoot > > > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:48 AM > > > To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama > Athletics Discussion List > > > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of > Oliver? > > > > > > > > > I'm still chanting for him & the season hasn't > even started yet. I have > > > zero faith in Kines. > > > > > > > > > > I'm with you on the zero faith in Kines part, but > I'm still straddling the > > fence on Oliver. No doubt he is one of the best > defensive minds ever, but > > I'm not sure that his dreams of getting the head > coaching job are totally > > out of his head. He could end up undermining Shula > every chance he got and > > become a cancer on the staff. Right now, I would > probably be on the side > of > > "get rid of Kines and leave Oliver at the lake > with the grandkids." > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to > your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! 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