Ouch.....that hurts Slef.  LOL  We did have a pitiful closing 5 minutes on
offense during that game.  Defense sucked a big egg as well.  I don't like
Kines or Rader either.  They have an uphill battle this season with me.
Joe
It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it
work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back.
Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster
productivity, not stifle it.

Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List"
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Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?


> MOO!
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Goodson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama
Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?
>
>
> > Hmmm....  I have to admit that those are legitimate mitigating
> > circumstances.
> > Joe
> > It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make
it
> > work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our
back.
> > Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster
> > productivity, not stifle it.
> >
> > Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Terry Pellman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 5:00 AM
> > Subject: RE: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > You mention that first down, when in fact there were about 7 plays for
a
> > total of less than 10 yards that would have sealed that game.  While the
4th
> > and 19 play hurts, blaming the loss on that one play isn't logical.
> > >
> > > Neither is blaming the 4th and 19 on Kines.  Heck, time and time again
> > throughout last season we saw how inefficient the LB's were in pass
> > coverage.
> > >
> > > That being said, there are aspects of Kines philosophy that I don't
agree
> > with.  For instance, with the DL playing an *Inside to Outside* scheme I
> > find it very difficult to believe we'll be able to maintain a consistant
> > pass rush with the athletes we have on campus now.
> > >
> > > The loss of Corn and BD hurt tremendously.  Couple that with Antwan
> > playing his way out of the draft (at least attempting to), the loss of 3
> > pass rushers from the year before, injury numbers that rival the plagues
of
> > Egypt we should have considered ourselves lucky to even be in the game
with
> > UT...much less take it to 5 OT's.
> > >
> > > T
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- "Rick McMahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Facts be known, the fucking 4th and 19 should have never happened. The
> > Tide
> > > offense should have salted the game away in regulation when they had
it
> > 1st
> > > down and 3 yards to go to make a first. They make that 1st, ballgame's
> > over!
> > > Basically the same could be said about the Arky game, the Tide fumbled
and
> > > bumbled away a 21 point lead by NOT moving the chains when the game
was on
> > > the line. I'm with Slef, fire Radar and Kines! :)
> > >
> > > 9 weeks and 5 days till KICKOFF!!
> > >
> > > ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!
> > > Rick
> > >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> > > Behalf Of Joe Goodson
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:07 PM
> > > To: M Laborde; RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics
Discussion
> > > List
> > > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?
> > >
> > > 4th and nineteen to Tenn. will forever piss me off as well.
> > >
> > > Look at it on the bright side.  Remember when we had a 3rd and 23 in
> > > Auburn......and we got 24 yards....on a draw play??  LOL  That might
help
> > > your feelings a little.  It does mine.
> > >
> > > RTR!!!!  September is just around the corner........two months!!!!
> > >
> > > woohooooo!!!
> > > Joe
> > > It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to
make it
> > > work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our
> > back.
> > > Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster
> > > productivity, not stifle it.
> > >
> > > Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "M Laborde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:13 PM
> > > Subject: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?
> > >
> > >
> > > > 4th and 19...
> > > >
> > > > 4th and nine-fucking-teen!!! The agony of that will be felt in my
heart
> > > for the
> > > > rest of my life.
> > > >
> > > > And against the team that is, arguably, our biggest rival.
> > > >
> > > > What else needs to be said. Kines' hiring was questioned when it
> > happened,
> > > it
> > > > was questioned during the season many times, and has been questioned
> > > repeatedly
> > > > since then. It's not 10 seconds. It's over a year plus his history.
It
> > > > WAS stupid of Shula to keep Kines. No question about it.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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