Hi Nitish, 

I looked at your slides and I agree a double failure is not common. I also 
agree that this could eliminate
 the election. However, I still don't know that the use cases of multiple 
backup routers and slightly faster
convergence warrant the changes to re-work of the VRRP protocol given that BFD 
can be
used between all the VRRP routers without such a major revision. 

Is anyone planning on implementing this? 

Thanks,
Acee

> On Oct 12, 2025, at 11:08 PM, Nitish Gupta <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Acee,
> 
> Thank you for your support in making this draft better.
> Please find our responses in the attached ppt, based on the feedback received.
> 
> Kindly let us know your comments.
> 
> Regards,
> Nitish
> 
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 8:53 AM Acee Lindem <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Aditya, et al, 
> 
> As requested by the chairs, I'm reposting my comments on the subject draft. 
> 
> Given the large amount of changes to the VRRP protocol for this, it would be 
> good to document the use cases for more than 3 VRRP routers participating in 
> the same Virtual Router (same LAN segment and VRID). 
> 
> What I suggested to satisfy the requirement to use BFD was to use RFC 9468 to 
> establish P2P sessions between the backup routers and the active router. 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_rfc9468_&d=DwIFAg&c=V9IgWpI5PvzTw83UyHGVSoW3Uc1MFWe5J8PTfkrzVSo&r=VtBzcqbE5foMKmiGqeVl3grTqduOkaOZbrQUo8AJRYc&m=I7f7EKIgm49vXR9o3Is7pxuc4xVJ0HoZR3RLcihj7_o9uRVmABwGdU0e2_eqDvOx&s=tjtdHiwsKUmEEprt9uMzgjjw8pwP_Vo_dLapRKEE8jY&e=
>  
> 
> I agree that pre-computing the best backup router ahead of time could reduce 
> the election by allowing the elimination of the jitter. I also agree that 
> this solution minimizes the number of BFD sessions. 
> 
> In the event of both the active and best backup failing you will have a long 
> recovery time. I don't recall if this case is covered, but at some point, the 
> other backup candidates should take over with a jitter. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Acee
> 
> <VRRP BFD Presentation.pdf>

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