On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Ivan Martinez wrote: > - The web pages have finally moved to a permanent location. It is: > http://www.rtlinux.org/rtlinux.new/dsl/ > - The User's Tutorial has been completed. You can now learn everything > about using DSL. Check DSL's web pages. Could you make it available in printable formats too, please? (PDF, PostScript.) > Many of you pointed out that it would be very interesting to use > real-time capabilities on SimuLink. As you probably know, rtlinux.org > has links to commercial packages doing that. But it would be much better > if some of us develop free software for that. A couple of remarks about this topic: - this feature is _much_ requested by control engineers without a good software background. (And most of them are :-(, as I know from my daily experiences...) - The simulink approach is not a complete solution: it forces people to think and design in the input-output paradigm; there are however lots of other control problems that are not dealt with, i.e., the so-called ``interaction-based'' paradigm. For example: a human being (or a robot) that pushes against objects doesn't work with input-output, but with a control of its `behaviour' (= impedance in this example). So, make sure you tackle both approaches. - take a look at the Modelica modelling language (www.modelica.org), which is going to be _the_ standard modelling language (visual as well as textual). Also the MathWorks and other big commercial players are involved. Use their modelling icons and language. - Modelica has a workshop in your neighbourhood: October 23 - 24 at Lund University, Lund, Sweden. Present your work there, and learn from the feedback (harsh criticism, most probably, or outrageous laughter :-) ) from the ``big guys''. > However, as I want to concentrate in developing the library, I wouldn't > participate in this project. Anybody doing this job can count on my full > support. I am currently designing an open source robot control project, of which DSL (or something similar) will be an indispensable part. The above-mentioned Simulink-like GUI would be another part. It's time we form groups to tackle different new projects on top of real-time linux, _and_ try to do it in a more or less coordinated way, in order to profit maximally from each others' efforts! > What do you think?. I suggest to submit overview and design papers to the real-time linux workshop, and get together there to form a `consortium' of application projects on top of the basic real-time linux (linuces)? <http://www.thinkingnerds.com/projects/rtos-ws/rtos-ws.html> Deadline: tomorrow :-( -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ph.D.) Fax: +32-(0)16-32 29 87 Dept. Mechanical Eng., Div. PMA, Katholieke Universiteit Leuven, Belgium -- [rtl] --- To unsubscribe: echo "unsubscribe rtl" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR echo "unsubscribe rtl <Your_email>" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- For more information on Real-Time Linux see: http://www.rtlinux.org/rtlinux/