Hi Adam,

from the name I would have never guessed that your plugin does things
similar to mine! ;-) It looks pretty awesome, though.

Maybe we should join forces on this issue? If you want to do this you
can get me in IRC - I'm usually hanging out in the Rails-Core channel
and my nick is clemensk. I'd love to discuss this with you and hear
your opinions.

- Clemens

On May 25, 12:48 pm, Adam Meehan <adam.mee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wondering whether my validates_timeliness plugin may give some ideas
> on the date/time parsing front.  The Formats class handles I18n
> parsinghttp://github.com/adzap/validates_timeliness/blob/572d80d227f4e727350...
>
> It also includes a suboptimal solution for the date ambiguities you
> mentioned. Suboptimal because its either one or the other
> interpretation for the whole app, which is not ideal. I plan to
> refactor the class to allow format filtering on the fly and also date
> disambiguation based on the locale.
>
> Adam
>
> On May 24, 9:28 pm, Clemens Kofler <clem...@railway.at> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'd love to have Date/Time parsing as well but I'm not sure the
> > solution I have right now is really fit for production. As far as I
> > see it, the only way to rely on output formats, turn them into regular
> > expressions and then parse them accordingly (I just pushed an update
> > to my plugin where I switched to DateTime#strptime for parsing - works
> > like a charm).
>
> > There are different approaches to parsing (Unicode suggests using
> > "lenient parsing") but in the end you always kind of depend on the
> > user: AFAIK, 02/03/04 as an English date could mean 2nd February 04,
> > 3rd April 02 and 4th March 03, right? The only dates that are fairly
> > unambiguous are dates including month names and 4-digit years. So how
> > do I circumvent this issue when trying to parse? Question is: What
> > would/should happen if the user passes a date/time that can't be
> > parsed? Raise errors? Just set it to nil?
>
> > - Clemens
>
> > On May 23, 2:33 pm, Michael Koziarski <mich...@koziarski.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Any opinions on that? I can submit a patch with tests at any time.
>
> > > I'd be hesitant to add just number support when date functionality is
> > > also pretty important.  Would it take much more effort to do it for
> > > numbers and dates / times?   Shipping half a feature can be more
> > > frustrating than not shipping any localised input at all.
>
> > > Your plan for having an AR option to do this conversion sounds like a
> > > good way to wire it up.
>
> > > --
> > > Cheers,
>
> > > Koz
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