Dheeraj,
And others... I am now convinced to use Linux/Ubuntu in my VirtualBox
installation. I followed the tutorial that was posted earlier. Colin, on this
list, recommended this posting:
http://blog.sudobits.com/2012/05/02/how-to-install-ruby-on-rails-in-ubuntu-12-04-lts/
I’ll have to lookup that link and try to find it again. I did everything in
the tutorial, got all the way to the bottom... where it says “Now you can see
your installation of test_app and there is a smiley face. I try that very last
step, where everything above it worked fine and so I go to my browser, enter
http;//localhost:3000
There might have been a directory, I’ll have to dig up that tutorial link.
Whatever it said for where to go in the browser is where I went. It says
“Cannot display page...”
Not found... etc.
Now in the course I took online at Lynda.com, called “Up and Running
with Linux for PHP Developers.” The location where we would be installing
software is giving me an error saying I don’t have permission to use that
directory. It is /media/sf_sandbox/
I did try the sudo command in front of cd to go to that directory and it said
it didn’t recognize sudo cd. It is both embarrassing and very frustrating that
it continues to take me so long to get this working. After all this time, I
STILL don’t have a rails install that I can browse to. I’ve never ever had
this kind of problem with anything, any programming language or language
environment.
Thanks,
Bruce
From: Dheeraj Kumar
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 2:14 AM
To: rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Rails] Help getting started: Newbie: Windows and Rails
Like I said, most ruby/rails developers do not use an IDE, as it isn't
necessary at all. When you start working with the console, you'll be much
faster and more efficient than you will with an IDE.
Install ubuntu on a virtualbox, run RailsReady (make sure you select to install
with RVM, when RailsReady asks you) and you're good to go. It shouldn't take
you more than 45 minutes from opening virtual box to starting to work on rails
with everything installed.
If you are not good at using the terminal, you will improve when you start
using it. If text flies by, scroll up to read it. If its unreadable, increase
your font size. Copying is usually Control+Shift+C, at least in the ubuntu
terminal. Select text with your mouse and you can even right click and click
copy.
Getting support on Windows is a really hard thing, and it's like trying to fit
a car engine in a motorbike, so why not go native on Linux?
Dheeraj Kumar
On Tuesday 28 August 2012 at 6:45 AM, Bruce Whealton wrote:
Hello,
Thanks for your feedback. I guess I will have to share with you
the problem I am having with Linux installations too. Anyway, I am taking a
course on Lynda.com for learning and the instructor doesn’t go into Linux for
some reason. He discusses Ruby on Rails for Mac and Windows. There is a
course also on Ruby which ran fine on Windows.
I have used various PHP frameworks, like Zend, Cakephp, Synphony.
Getting back to the course, unfortunately, he doesn’t cover any IDE
for doing development with Ruby On Rails. That’s why I was looking for
suggestions for a development tool, IDE, that is free. Aptana, Netbeans,
Eclipse, RadRails?
I have VirtualBox and can use that. However, first I want to say
that I would like to be able to follow the course material that does use
Windows (also Mac OS X, which I don’t have). Again, strangely as it seems, it
is the hardest, most frustrating effort to get started with Ruby on Rails among
all the language stacks (other stacks, I guess were the php stacks), and
languages I’ve used. On Windows, I ran into problems with both installing the
rails project on my xampp area and using the WebBrick server. Then I tried
using Linux Ubuntu Server 12.04 and ran into problems when I tried various
online tutorials for how to install and get up and running with Ruby on Rails
for Linux Ubuntu server. Someone on this list did send me a link to yet
another tutorial for Linux.
I suppose I am not so great at using terminal command line apps (like
Putty for windows) as the text often flies by and it’s hard to read. Plus, I’m
not clear how to copy the text when it displays errors during a process to be
able to share them on a list and ask what is going wrong?
It’s not a matter of not understanding the concept of the framework,
it’s the fact that it isn’t working in any environment, using an IDE or no IDE,
or etc.
This is far and above the most difficult language and framework that
I’ve ever encountered. I’ve never before spent day after day just to get a
language or language stack setup and to have a application created and to be
able to go to a website and see it. There are many conceptual things I need to
learn about the php language stacks but at least in the first sitting, within a
couple hours if not much, much sooner, I had an MVC application installed and I
could browse to it.
thanks,
Bruce
From: Dheeraj Kumar
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 11:17 AM
To: rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Rails] Help getting started: Newbie: Windows and Rails
Hi Bruce,
I can understand the problems you're going through, as I've faced them
myself. They stem from some misconceptions about the language & the framework.
Getting started with rails is probably the easiest thing to do out of all the
language stacks available. If you're using OSX or Linux, use
https://github.com/joshfng/railsready on a fresh install of your OS, and you're
set.
Remember that developing rails on Windows is not that easy, since Ruby runs
best on *nix environments like OSX or Linux. On Windows, Ruby runs on an
emulation layer like Cygwin, which should probably work 90% of the time, but
it's largely unsupported by the rails community.
Dheeraj Kumar
On Monday 27 August 2012 at 8:37 PM, Bruce Whealton wrote:
Hello all,
For some reason, Ruby on Rails is one of the hardest programming
languages that I’ve ever tried to get up and running with it. I have used
python, perl, php, java, javascript, etc.
Can someone recommend a good IDE that is free – at this point I need that –
Please. I have both RadRails, which often gets described as an Eclipse Plugin
– maybe I should instead just start with Eclipse and install
Ruby on Rails for Eclipse. I also have NetBeans. Can someone recommend an
IDE for Windows. (and separately if it works in Linux).
I took a course on Lynda.com on Ruby and then on Ruby on Rails and got
stuck at the part where I create the first app and then try the Webbrick
server.
I can work with Ruby. I’d now like to work with Ruby on Rails.
I do have a dedicated server and I can install gems from the
cpanel. I don’t know how that is at learning Rails. For example, are there
ways to create a ruby on rails application from the cpanel?
While I am trying to get started with Linux, I would like to be
able to do this in Windows. The course I am taking is using Windows or Mac. I
don’t have a mac yet.
Thanks,
Bruce
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