Fidel Viegas wrote: > On 9/9/10, Marnen Laibow-Koser <li...@ruby-forum.com> wrote: >> radhames brito wrote: >>> i must be missing something because everyone seems to love vim but to me >>> is >>> just archaic. >> >> I agree with you. The modal interface should have died in the 1970s. >> If I want a console editor, I use Emacs. >> > > The thing about Vim or Emacs, is that they are not ordinary editors. > They are modal editors.
Emacs isn't a modal editor in the sense that Vi is (with separate insert and edit modes). That's one reason I like it better than Vi. > You can't really compare them with ordinary > text editors. Sure you can. They're heavily programmable, but they're still just text editors. (Yes, I know you can check your e-mail and play Tetris in Emacs. That doesn't really change my point.) [...] > It is pretty hard to get use to it in the beginning, but once > you get used to it, you will find that you can do things with it that > you cannot replicate in other editors. Example? I agree in principle -- I *am* an Emacs fan -- but I find that this doesn't make much difference for me in practice. > The whole productivity > enhancement is in the fact that you do not leave the keyboard, which > is something that sort of delays your productivity a bit. At least > that is for me. I hear this argument a lot. To some extent (a great extent) I agree with it. But in fact there are tasks for which the mouse makes you *more* productive. There are times when I'd rather click around than use cursor keys. [...] > The other nice thing about Vim is that it > comes with any Unix based operating system. So, if you know how to use > it you can start editing configuration files with it in any Unix based > OS. I know how to use Vi. I still hate it. [...] > I have heard that Emacs is more powerful than Vim, but for me Vim is > enough. I am happy with it as I am already used to its modes, and > commands. For me, it's not that Emacs is more powerful; rather, it's easier to use. Emacs modes are like language modules in other editors, not like Vi's insert and edit mode. The latter have no place in 21st-century software IMHO. :) [...] > PS: "Vim is like wine, the older it gets the more tasty it becomes" ;D Why? Because nostalgia is the only thing it has going for it? :D Best, -- Marnen Laibow-Koser http://www.marnen.org mar...@marnen.org -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.