and he notes - The term I've heard is a "Wagon Top Boxcar", usually identified with B&O's versions. There is a neat site with one under construction for a live steam operation. It not S Gauge but it does show the shape of the ribs as well as other construction details. Each page takes you through the next phase of construction to the finished car:
http://www.trainweb.org/jlsrr/livesteam/wagon-top-boxcar/wagon-top-1/wagon-top-1.htm (Another plan for a B&O wagon-top boxcar appears in Model Railroader, December 1964) The Pennsy had 'em too (PRR X31b Wagon-Top Boxcar is an example) but the ribs were inside. A drawing can be found at: http://paintshop.railfan.net/images/moldover/x31b_boxcar.html The term "Wagon Top" is used to describe the roof. But since B&O was the only road to put the ribs on the outside it has been identified with that term. On both the PRR and B&O cars, the ribs are extended 'U' shapes for riveting to the sides and roofs, which on the B&O were one piece panels. The difference in the PRR cars is the supports are inside and the construction is more like a regular freight car with seams and inside longitudinal framing. Incidentally, this site has dozens of plans for locos and rolling stock: http://paintshop.railfan.net/ The B&O parleyed this idea with covered hoppers and cabooses too. You can own one their cabooses if you like: http://www.trains-trams-trolleys.com/equipment/caboose/9000/ Set it out next to a lake and fish from the bay window! Raleigh At 08:46 PM 1/6/2005, Jamie Bothwell wrote: >On Thursday, January 6, 2005, at 05:34 PM, Bill Fraley wrote: > > > Most important of all, Frank Titman, designed and sold this kit under > > his > > Lehigh Valley Models label and it ain't a bad looker! And you Jamie, a > > very > > good modeler, saying such things! Tsk! Tsk! > > > > So There, > > "S"incerely, > > Bill > > > >Hi All, > Well once again I've offended Bill and I'm not sure why. Maybe he >took my comments to be demeaning of the LVM kit. I was talking about >the real car. I know we talk about rib sided hoppers, but I wasn't >sure if you could say, "Rib sided boxcar..." Frank is a friend of >mine, and I was certainly not implying that his kit was lacking. I >thought the wire was an excellent choice until last summer when I took >a closer look at a real boxcar. Even then it didn't hit me that there >was a way to improve the kit until I found out about the triangle >shaped styrene. And Bill, isn't that what we're trying to do, build >better models? >Jamie Bothwell > The poll results are in....... To REPLY to the list, use REPLY ALL, to reply to the sender, use REPLY. I do NOT know if this works on all e-mail software, but it works on some of the most common ones. Change your membership, change your message settings, use our CALENDAR, view shared files or photos, view the list archives, GO TO http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
