On Jan 25, 2006, at 10:53 AM, Bob Werre wrote:

> Next if you want long cars and want to
> pull them into a train shed attached to a union station (aka Kansas
> City, Chicago, St. Louis etc.) you will need 20-40 feet on a layout.  
> So
> at this point if one were to have a large or medium sized passenger
> station and some kind of simple circle around it, we are talking 
> perhaps
> 40 foot in total length.

Bob,
        When I was building a layout in my attic I found a trackplan that fit, 
and did all the freight things I wanted.  It was sadly lacking in the 
passenger department, but I learned to embrace my limitations and move 
forward.  Well, I moved so far forward that I moved into a different 
house.  The basement appeared so spacious at first that I started 
planning the passenger station of my dreams.  I figured I could fit 
Harrisburg into 16 liner feet, but what I really had trouble with was 
the twenty feet of track I'd need on each end to store trains.  Trying 
to wrangle 12 tracks around a curve wasn't an easy prospect either.  To 
make a long story short, I packed up my layout and moved it out to 
Richmond, Indiana.  This was the PRR's second city of passenger car 
switching.  It should work on a number of levels, no pun intended, 
because I light my upper level with daylight florescent tubes that run 
right behind the valance.  The part of the layout that is built is 
three feet deep and it seems well lit.  I am a bit worried about the 
shadow cast by the grain elevator though.
        As for consist books, the PRR ones I have are very specific about the 
consist of trains, mail trains included, right down to which way the 
RPO's were to face (anyone know why?), and the consist on many mail 
trains changed depending on the day of the week.  There was even some 
attempt to specify what some of the express cars carried such as 
"Newsweek" for example.
Jamie



 
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