It may have been something else - I know the Western Auto store in La Salle, 
IL, had Lionel in the late '60's, maybe early '70's. I remember a couple of 
5&10 stores in Ottawa, IL, that had AF displays in December. Then, of course, 
there was Sears, and Penneys, and the list goes on.

There was a store in La Salle, IL, called O'leary's. Whenever we hit town, I 
would head for the 2nd floor. You could here the rumble and the roar of the 
Lionel trains raising the dust on the floor before you even walked in the front 
door! They carried AF, too, but the Lionel layout was the big draw. I remember 
drooling over an AF Santa Fe PA/PB set of Alco's

Conversely, the Packard dealer in Ottawa, IL, had a large space in one corner 
of his display floor for an AF layout and a huge selection of AF products. The 
AF trains didn't have the rumble and roar, thanks to the rubber roadbed under 
the track, but, "oh, that smoke and choo-choo", plus comparing the appearance 
of AF to Lionel was like comparing a graceful race horse to a plodding water 
buffalo. AF was always pleasant to watch in action, while Lionel looked like it 
could do some serious damage if anything got in tis way!

The key here was high visibility of quality and attractive products (yes, even 
Lionel). There were one or two hobby shops in the area, but they focused more 
on HO and advanced model railroading. I don't think I ever visited one until in 
my early teens.

Bob Nicholson  ______________________________________________


--- In [email protected], JGG KahnSr <jacekahn@...> wrote:
>
> 
> As I recall, my Western Auto had only Lionel; could have been that another 
> [hardware and plumbing] store in the small city had the AF franchise?
> 
> Jace Kahn
> 
> General Manager 
> Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Completely different market. I wanted an AF train set from the first time I 
> > saw one run at a Western Auto store in the late 1940's. I finally realized 
> > my dream in 1953.
> > 
> > There was another difference, too. J. Lionel Cowan and A.C. Gilbert built 
> > stuff that pleased their market, not their marketing "experts".
> > Bob Nicholson  ________________________________________
> 
> > > It was readily available at York this week, loads of Flyer on tables,  
> > > probably not priced to sell to the average person and that may be the  
> > > issue.  
> > > Just not affordable????  Too collectable????  
> > > Jim Lyle
> > >  
> 
> > > Good  point - look at how American Flyer flew off the shelves when it was 
> > > readily  available.
> > > Bob Nicholson   ________________________________________
> 
>                                         
> 
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