Andre:

26C's are what we had on the majority of Santa Fe locomotives. CCP engines 
(ex-IC/ICG for the most part) had the 26L's and for good reason! They were not 
equipped with operative dynamic brakes. Using the PASS position was supposedly 
"against the rules", of course.

12lbs. trainline/ER leakage in a minute? How did that guy ever get out of the 
terminal or move a train enroute with that, especially with all the expert 
"coulda' done, woulda' done, shoulda done" laying in the weeds just waiting for 
someone to stub their toe?

I suppose we better get back to arguing modern versus period S scale 
railroading before someone accuses us of going off-topic, etc.

Bob Nicholson

--- In [email protected], "Andre Ming" <laming@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Bob!
> 
> Yup, the PASS setting also works great for a leaking EQ if you have a 26L 
> brake valve. You're poop outta' luck with a 26C valve. (2 positions: In/Out.) 
> 
> In fact, I know of an engineer (know him very well, in fact) that just the 
> other day had a 4,000 ton train, and the lead locomotive in his consist had a 
> 26C with an EQ that leaked and thus wouldn't maintain. With a train behind 
> the consist (and all the air leaks that accompany a train), once a minimum 
> reduction was made (about 6 lbs), it would draw on down to 12 lbs in less 
> than a minute, and keep on drawing off your air. Of course, left unabated, 
> you will be stopped within another minute. That's a prescription for 
> disaster.  Anyway, this engineer I know very well said "to heck with this" 
> and used the Regulating Valve to safely bring them down the hill to a 
> drawbridge (in the  up position) on a river. 
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: shabbona_rr 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:09 AM
>   Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Moderling Earlier Eras in S
> 
> 
>   Andre:
> 
>   Judicious use of the regulating valve will prevent that from happening. I 
> remember a story about a railroad that wanted to fire an engineer for 
> descending maountain grades by using the regulating valve to maintain brake 
> pipe pressure with K-type brakes.
> 
>   They got all set up for a ring-a-ding-ding kangaroo court, and even had a 
> representative from the air brake manufacturer to drive the final nail in 
> their case against the engineer. His testimony wasn't exactly what they 
> wanted to hear.
> 
>   He testified that the engineer had better use the regulating valve, unless 
> the railroad wanted a pile of scrap at the bottom of the mountain. Case 
> closed!
> 
>   Bob Nicholson  _________________________________________
> 
>   PS - the "passenger" setting on #26 brake valves serves the same purpose. 
> That's how we got down the hills with no dynamic brakes
>   ________________________________________________________________
> 
>   --- In [email protected], "Andre Ming" <laming@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Gotta' be careful though when decending heavy grades (as on my V scale 
> Colorado Midland route)... or you can... umm... uhh... "potty" away your air 
> and away you go!  (Ahhhgggghh!!!! LOOK OUT BELOW!!!)
>   > 
>   > Fun is where you find it!
>   > 
>   > Andre Ming
>   > 
>   > 
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