--- In [email protected], JAMES SLEETH <aztecfan@...> wrote:
>
> OK who is running the new Lionel Engines with sound in DCC with out removing 
> the sound units?
>  
> Someone come foreward.
>  
> Do all sounds work in DC operation?
>  
> Tell us how you can take it out of the box and run it as is?
>  
> For $500 it should work. If you have to add a lot of time and money to make 
> it work who is going to buy it?
>  
> Everyone talks about what Lionel may do, that is not the same as what they 
> offer now.
>  
> I asked for help 3 months ago and no one showed me how to do it.
>  
> I gave up.
>  
> I have installed a DCC sound system to AM engines, but can't get smoke or 
> automatic uncoupling yet.
>  
> My next test is to try and add Mikes HO coupler which is S size and O smoke 
> unit.
>  
> Now how can we add another sound unit for talking?
>  
> AM has scale wheels and is set up for DC operation already.
>  
> Mike could use his DCC HO system and jump ahead of Lionel and keep the cost 
> down.
>
OK. Listen carefully, now. I'm only going to post this once.

I have had a Lionel Beta test U33C with scale wheels and Kadee couplers mounted 
since June of this year. 

The following is MY UNDERSTANDING and OBSERVATION of the current state of 
development and NOT OFFICIAL LIONEL DOCUMENTATION.

It has a Lionel designed DCC decoder that interfaces with the Lionel Legacy 
electronics.  It will detect whether the track is supplied by DC, DCC, AC or 
TMCC/Legacy and operate accordingly.

Under DC or AC operation, you get the diesel prime mover sounds that responds 
to changes in speed.  Under AC, you also get horn and bell.  Full operation of 
thing not usually of concern to scale folks is available through Lionel's 
Legacy.

With the current code, the locomotive can be taken out of the box, placed on 
the track, have power supplied by any of the above four selections and operate. 
 That's all any of us need to know.

The DCC does not currently have a full range of CV's, but you can do basics 
like consisting. The DCC decoder code is still undergoing development as there 
are some minor issues with the MRC Prodigy System and I've communicated a few 
more things I think are needed.

The locomotive does operate more smoothly under DCC than straight DC.  Part of 
this is due to the fuel tank drive and gear ratio used.

The Lionel DCC decoder is designed to interface with the Legacy electronics.  
Use of a different DCC decoder will require removal of the Lionel electronics 
to the best of my knowledge.  All lighting, sound and smoke functions are wired 
to the Legacy electronics, not the DCC decoder.

Again...  THESE ARE MY EXPERIENCES AND OBSERVATIONS, NOT OFFICIAL LIONEL 
DOCUMENTATION.  I am unable to answer any more specific questions.

Rich G(ajnak)



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