Why not go clock work wind up to really reduce cost ?

Advertise it as harkening back to a simplier time... befor electricty 
complicated our lives...

>From: "Marty.Thorin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "S-Scale (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "S-Trains (E-mail)" 
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>Subject: [S-Trains] Cheap trains
>Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:23:11 -0600
>
>Dick Karnes wrote;   >      The cost of living has increased by a
>factor of 7.38 since 1949.  (Reference:
>ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/cpi/cpiai.txt)  That means this
>set would
>cost around $295 today.  Now look as SHS's four-car set.  It has a
>price tag of
>$300, essentially the same.  And today's level of technology and detail
>is miles
>ahead of 1949 AF. <
>
>
>And someone else pointed out that Marx's sets were $10.00.
>
>I haven't said this here before but I think there could be a VERY cheap 
>set.
>Very easily.  Amtrak to boot.
>
>For the locomotive, use the Genesis as the basis.  It would consist of a
>thick, plastic shell with painted or molded on detail.  No 'glass' in the
>windows.  Headlight is not lit.
>       The frame is a chunk of plastic to hold the two trucks.
>       The front truck is an 'all in one' truck like the old HO F-Unit
>trucks or AHM's O Scale C-Liner truck.  This truck will scoot just fine by
>itself down AF track.
>       The rear truck is an unpowered dummy.  Did I mention AF flanges?
>       Couplers are dummies like on an AF 24110 PRR gondola.  (In this case
>take the Pikemaster and make it solid.)
>
>The 'train' consists of three passenger cars.  They are identical.  Again,
>the shell is one thick, plastic block with painted or molded on detail.  No
>'glass' in the windows.  The cars are not illuminated but they are nicely
>painted.  Talgo mounted dummy couplers (not body mounted).  These would be
>shorties like the AM Budds.
>
>Track consists of an oval of track.  SHS makes the right stuff.  One 
>circle,
>one straight, and one rerailing / crossing like an AF 728.  Anything else
>must be purchased separately.
>
>Minimal power pack.  One amp.
>
>Make sure there are some hopelessly out-of-scale people for play value.
>
>Last, include a bevy of catalogs and other literature from SHS, AM,
>Portline, NASG, etc.
>
>That's the set.  Nothing else.  Cheap.  Simple.
>
>-------------------------
>
>Some quick revisions with the older modeler in mind.  (i.e. Us!)  Make the
>shells so all detail is painted on ah-la-Marx so they are easy to strip 
>off.
>Include dimples where the handrails and other details need to go.  (I see
>after market potential here.)  Also aftermarket glass for the windows,
>headlights, illumination kits, etc.
>       Make the Genesis shell scale length.  Make the loco and passenger
>trucks the correct wheelbase.  Make the loco and passenger shells as scale
>as possible (yet still rugged) to increase potential sales.
>       And most of all, make them so they run on DC AF track.  (If you have
>to have AC, make it go forward only.)
>
>Thorin
>
>P.S.  I'll take six sets right now.  As the power truck and the dummy are
>interchangeable, I'll put two power trucks into each, discarding the
>double-dummies to some kids.  I'll pass most of the passenger cars onto the
>kids.
>       I'll also dissect the power trucks and pull out the wires so I can
>DCC them.  Other power trucks will go under home-brew electrics.
>
>
>
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