I’m not sanguine about this question. My beef with these links and icons has more to do with the fact that Cocalc isn’t “defined. Someone discovering this page can’t deduce that Cocalc is a commercial service built around the free (as in GPL-3) software Sagemath. Hence some confusion.
Furthermore, Cocalc is not a a fork of Sagemath ; as far as I can tell, Cocalc-created patches to Sagemath are brought back to Sagemath. ISTR that, at some point in time, William proposed the sources to his server as an alternative front end. A couple suggestions : - A one-sentence presentation of Cocalc. Rough proposal : “Cocalc [link] is a company (founded by one of the Sagemath creators) offering commercial online computing and collaborative services centered on (but not limited to) Sagemath.” - Possibly a one-sentence presentation of Sagemath Cell. Rough proposal : “Sagemath Cell [link] is a free Sagemath server offering a Sagemath computation facility embeddable in (X)HTML pages ; it can also be used as an online calculator.” - Replace the icon linking to Cocalc by the Cocalc icon [ necessary if any link to Cocalc subsists on the page ]. - Offer a link to Sagemath cell (possibly with a specific icon, to be created). BTW, my real beef with Cocalc is … Cocalc itself : - William has justified his decision to spin a commercial company off Sagemath by the difficulty (to say the least) of financing Sagemath development in areas not already a research subject for Sagemath developers, resulting in a necessity of financing the development of Sagemath by commercial means. - I can agree with the diagnosis : financing “non-sexy” development through public projects has become increasingly difficult ; this commercial drift of public research policy and management can be observed in all disciplines and all countries. - I may or may not agree with the proposed therapeutics : IMNSHO, the commercial funding of research and development is but a band aid ; an etiologic treatment of the problem is a much larger problem, probably out of our scope (efficiently debunking the “magic of markets” fallacy is *hard*…). - I am not aware of an assessment of the importance of Cocalc-created enhancements in Sage evolution, so don’t have an opinion about the success/failure of this treatment. Hence my “moderate” attitude : be absolutely clear on the nature of Cocalc, but don’t hinder it “gratuitously”, unless and until proof of its “toxicity” to Sagemath can be made. HTH, Le lundi 16 novembre 2020 à 08:16:17 UTC+1, Kwankyu Lee a écrit : > Acknowledging first all that William did and the fact that Harald is > currently maintaining the website, > > I think that the Sage website should remove the links to Cocalc from the > front page. Perhaps they can be collected in a displayed box dedicated for > sponsors. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/fd2ffcaf-048e-4fc4-8021-2509be220bdcn%40googlegroups.com.
