I was asking a very specific question about SageMath on Ubuntu 22.04: Are
Ubuntu 22.04 users who install the sagemath-doc package able to read those
(Sage 9.5) docs with Firefox?

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1441339/how-can-i-use-file-urls-from-my-firefox-snap-version
suggests the answer is no, or not easily.

I thought that topic might be pertinent here.

- Marc

On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 6:48 PM Michael Orlitzky <mich...@orlitzky.com>
wrote:

> On 2023-06-29 14:46:00, Marc Culler wrote:
> > During our recent release of SnapPy we ran across an issue which is
> likely
> > relevant to whether Sage's documentation is viewable on newer Ubuntu
> > systems (such as 22.04).  The issue is that these newer Ubuntu systems
> ship
> > Firefox as a snap.  A snap runs in a sandbox which restricts which files
> > the snap can read.  Specifically, the Firefox snap can only read files
> in
> > the user's home directory.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Have people run into this?
> >
>
> Alternate headline: multi-millionaire does stupid thing with
> billionaire's product; how can math teachers fix it for free?
>
> This is a combination of two problems,
>
>   1. Mozilla has been going out of their way for a long time to make
>      traditional firefox/thunderbird packages hard to maintain.
>
>   2. Snaps are stupid (but low effort).
>
> Despite a long-standing and fully independent hatred of Snaps, I can't
> really blame Ubuntu for saying fuck it and taking the easy way out;
> the firefox experience was going to be degraded in one way or another.
>
> There aren't any great solutions because the only other mainstream
> browser is managed by a spyware company and is also increasingly
> difficult to package (for slightly different reasons). For second-tier
> browsers, there's Falkon (Qt) and Epiphany (Gtk), which can still be
> sanely packaged, but that are also missing features that most users
> won't give up. Everything else is basically a Chrome theme these days
> and inherits Chrome problems.
>
> To summarize where I'm at personally,
>
>   * Man/info pages are the standard and still work great
>   * A fallback browser is nice to have around
>   * There's always LaTeX/PDF
>   * Not everything can be my problem
>
> This is more of an answer to "have people run into this?" than an
> actual answer, but there it is.
>
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