On October 12, 2025 11:15:10 PM CDT, "'[email protected]' via sage-devel"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Most of these targets are coming from the docbuild.
Why would one consider docbuild targets
for the task of building sagelib?
Shouldn't src/doc be considered separately?
> Does someone knows if
>sphinx's incremental rebuild is now good enough that we can remove our
>custom-made multi-stage docbuild?
As far as I understand, the main objective of the old docbuild was to speed it
up, compared to how sphinx was doing more than 10 years ago. I imagine it's
good enough now, but it doesn't seem to be a trivial task to rewire our docs to
use the standard sphinx build.
Dima
>
>On Monday, October 13, 2025 at 11:25:58 AM UTC+8 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> I do see a progress output while meson is generating build.ninja (i.e.
>> ninja's makefile), and it took about 230 seconds of wallclock time.
>> (Often it's much faster, but major rebuilds, when you touched configure.ac
>> and what not, are like this)
>>
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>> That's of course a constraint satisfaction problem to find the targets to
>> rebuild, and it's not a very easy one.
>> I actually don't know what these almost 1700 dependencies are. Are they
>> the sage-distro dependencies, or only sagelib?
>>
>> Once build.ninja is generated, things move quite fast in general.
>>
>> Dima
>>
>> On Sunday, October 12, 2025 at 2:47:27 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> OK, it took about ten minutes with configure --enable-dot2tex=yes
>>>
>>> Martin
>>> On Sunday, 12 October 2025 at 09:38:43 UTC+2 Martin R wrote:
>>>
>>>> (for comparison, previously installing dot2tex took just a few seconds)
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, 12 October 2025 at 09:36:04 UTC+2 Martin R wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, 12 October 2025 at 04:14:24 UTC+2 [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> it might take a lot of time to create the correct list of targets, as
>>>>> you don't follow the best way, which is
>>>>>
>>>>> ./configure --enable-dot2tex=yes
>>>>> make # this should also build do2tex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought that this would be the default (if installed, which it is):
>>>>>
>>>>> --enable-dot2tex={no|if_installed (default)|yes}
>>>>> enable build and use of the optional package
>>>>> dot2tex: Create PGF/TikZ
>>>>> commands from Graphviz output
>>>>> * package info: ./sage -info dot2tex
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll try anyway. But in fact, that also means that I have to be more
>>>>> careful than previously, since there are several packages I only install
>>>>> when I notice that something isn't working (eg., dot2tex, lie, coxeter3,
>>>>> gap_packages, fricas, bliss, macaulay2 ...)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 6:12 PM Volker Braun <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Does it actually hang there? the "meson setup" step takes quite a long
>>>>> time but eventually completes for me
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> More than 3 minutes? If so, it would be nice if there could be some
>>>>> progress output.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll report,
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin
>>>>>
>>>>
>
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