I think that it is quite hard to develop a graphic platform that perform well displaying both 3D 2D and general graphics... sometimes it is good to have some interactive 2D plotting and use other graphical engine for complex diagram such as polar or smith chart.
Apart from this consideration I like flot not because it is nice to see, but because having a JS data instead of a static png will allow to zoom or have a crosshair that point the value of the data on mouse over events, or to dynamically add and remove line from a plot. This kind of feature are not really required when your presenting your work, but I think that a lot of user, like me, that comes from the matlab world would enjoy such graphic interaction... even without 3D capabilities. Sorry I did not mean to be polemic, was just a bunch of consideration at the end of the day (Rome Time :)), apart from that could you please point out again your code (http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/ 91c424ccb670ed4b/2ffcf542cfeaeb64) to crack the plot.show function., maybe I can work a little bit on that! On 27 Feb, 18:27, Tom Boothby <tomas.boot...@gmail.com> wrote: > In an ideal world, all graphics objects would have the ability to > render themselves in FLOT. There are currently some issues with this: > > 1) FLOT doesn't appear to be able to make shapes -- circles, polygons, etc. > 2) Graphics objects have an additive structure: (circle + text + > plot).show() works great for now > 3) FLOT doesn't support logarithmic or polar plotting > > The first thing I would do would be to add a FLOT rendering option to > plot.show() -- this should be pretty easy, given my adaptation of your > code in > > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/91c424... > > If you want to take a crack at it, Maurizio, I welcome you to. If you > get stuck, drop me a line; if you give up, definitely tell me because > I want to see this happen badly enough to write it myself. :) > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:37 AM, Jason Grout > > <jason-s...@creativetrax.com> wrote: > > > Maurizio wrote: > >> I have another question. > >> What do you think about the SAGE functions that are going to use FLOT? > > > After we have an spkg, I think we should add a 'flot' option to the > > viewer argument of the show command that would show the plot using FLOT > > if FLOT is installed. Is this the sort of thing that you are thinking? > > Then the user would be able to do: > > > p=plot(x*sin(x), (x,-2,2)) > > show(p, viewer='flot') > > > and a FLOT chart would pop up. > > > Jason > > >> In my opinion, simply providing a FLOT spkg that adds the javascript, > >> will not provide any additional feature to the users, because all the > >> people that would have been capable to write the js powered functions > >> from scratch wouldn't have been any problem in downloading and using > >> manually the latest revision of FLOT (or FLOTR, or any other preferred > >> js plot package). > > >> On the contrary, if we start providing also, let's say, two simple > >> FLOT powered plot SAGE functions, and do a little advertising on the > >> wiki (for example), we will get much greater results in terms of user > >> benefits, and even in long term support of the package, because many > >> more people would be exposed to the usage of the basic functions, and > >> there is a lot of people capable of writing complex SAGE plotting > >> functions, that don't want to deal too much with writing javascript > >> functions from scratch. > > >> In fact, my enabler in this case has been the Kenny's experience with > >> javascript and stuff, because I wouldn't be capable of doing this by > >> myself (even though I already did the bode plot function for > >> matplotlib). > > >> What do you think? > > >> In case you agree, we would really appreciate some feedback about how > >> to speedup a bit the SAGE functions. > > >> Regards > > >> Maurizio > > >> On 26 Feb, 11:56, Jason Grout <jason-s...@creativetrax.com> wrote: > >>> Maurizio wrote: > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> as you know, Kenny and me recently worked on a notebook demo to show > >>>> the possibility to include a javascript enhanced plot package (namely > >>>> FLOT) into the SAGE notebook. > >>>> The demo is currently hosted at:http://www.sagenb.org/pub/285/ > >>>> As you can see, this is just a proof of concept. > >>>> <b>Do any of you have suggestions about features that you would like > >>>> to have in another demo? </b> If that can help in convincing the > >>>> community to adopt this package, we would be available to produce > >>>> another example notebook. > >>>> Has anybody here ever worked on javascript and SAGE interaction code? > >>>> We would appreciate some help. > >>>> As you can see here: > >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/91c424... > >>>> Some discussion already went on about this, and it seems that a lot of > >>>> people have been positively impressed by the demo, so it seems > >>>> reasonable to not let this chance to include this package to go away > >>>> without any result. > >>> I think the next step might be to make an optional spkg for theflot > >>> code. You can probably just take one of the existing javascript spkgs > >>> (say, the tinymce spkg or the jsmath spkg) and modify it slightly by > >>> puttingflotin the src/ directory and changing the documentation. If > >>> you are comfortable trying this, here are instructions: > > >>> 1. Download the jsmath spkg > >>> 2. Extract the spkg (you can do this with tar xjvf jsmath-3.6a.p0.spkg) > >>> 3. Change the directory name toflot-VERSION_NUMBER > >>> 4. Change the code in the src directory and change the directories > >>> mentioned in the spkg-install file > >>> 5. Change the documentation in the SPKG.txt file > >>> 6. Delete the existing .hg directory in theflot-VERSION_NUMBER > >>> directory to get rid of the repository for the jsmath spkg > >>> 7. Create a new hg repository for theflotspkg by doing sage -hg init > >>> inside of theflot-VERSION_NUMBER directory > >>> 8. commit the spkg-install and SPKG.txt files (do "sage -hg add > >>> spkg-install" and "sage -hg add SPKG.txt", then "sage -hg commit" and > >>> type a brief message, like "initial version") > >>> 6. do "sage -spkg DIRECTORY" > >>> 7. post the resultingflot-VERSIONNUMBER.spkg > > >>>> Please, note that the working demo has been developed in just few > >>>> hours, and we are already working with it on a daily basis, so it > >>>> seems pretty functional and stable, and it is also easy to maintain > >>>> and further enhance. > >>>> Anyway,FLOTis actively developed, so it could be a good idea to > >>>> later contact its developers to take advantage of their help, or at > >>>> least of their knowledge: > >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/flot-graphs > >>>> Regards > >>>> Kenny and Maurizio --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
