On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Tim Abbott <tabb...@mit.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, William Stein wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Tim Abbott <tabb...@mit.edu> wrote: >> > (Note that I'm not directly subscribed to this list and do not have >> > the time to read it regularly, so you may want to CC me directly if >> > you want to ensure I see your replies. I continue to wish that sage- >> > devel was managed like the LKML.) >> > >> Do tell. I don't know anything about how the Linux Kernel Mailing >> list is managed or what advantage it has over the sage-devel mailing >> list. > > The issue is that Google groups automatically munges the Reply-to: header > (this may be configurable). > > The LKML has really high traffic, and so a lot of people who contribute > don't directly subscribe. Instead, it's standard practice to send an > email to the LKML, and people are supposed to reply-all so that they CC > both the people who've actually contributed to the thread and the list > itself. It's policy when emailing a patch to the LKML to CC, you need to > CC the people who work on the relevant subsystem; they have a file called > MAINTAINERS in the root of the source tree that encodes this information, > and a script that will print out the list of people you're supposed to CC > based on what files your patch touches. > > So, this way the guy who maintains the r8169 driver doesn't actually need > to read the entire (basically unbearable) load of the LKML; he just needs > to read the emails that CC him directly. There are still a lot of people > who subscribe to the LKML and read random emails sent to the list, but > that's not required in order to be a useful contributor or even a > subsystem maintainer. > > > With sage-devel, if I send an email to the list and then someone replies, > the "Reply-to: sage-devel@googlegroups.com" header guarantees their reply > will go to the list, but most mail clients will send the email to _only_ > the list. Thus I end up having to periodically check back to see whether > anyone replied to threads I'm involved in. > > There's a tradeoff here -- the LKML way requires teaching people to > reply-all, and that has its costs. But I always find high-traffic lists > that munge reply-to to be frustrating to contribute to without a > significant minimum time commitment to read the mailing list.
I solve this problem by using gmail, filtering all messages into the "sage" label (folder) and then when I want to check threads, which I am involved in, I click on the "sent emails" link and gmail will highlight those threads that contain new emails. So it's super easy for me to see if someone has said anything. The only disadvantage is that sometimes someone replies a week later, and thus the highlighted thread will be on some older page in the "sent emails" view in gmail. So some button "show unread" would be cool. Ondrej --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
