On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Frank Polte <akasaka...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 2 Feb., 16:42, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Quick note: 1.  I make squashfs for Sage, and if you do it right, it's
>> 390MB.  You have to replace the spkg's by empty files.
>>
> That's right, I thought you need  the spks's to (re)compile other
> packages?

You can replace them all with empty files with the same names, and
Sage will work fine.

> Then you can use sage from an old 512MB usb-stick or sd card.

Yes, definitely.

> For schools in poorer countries this could be useful.
> The old debian squashfs had builtin lzma support, but they had to drop
> it
> when squashfs came into the kernel. Unfortunatly the kernel lzma is
> not good enough
> for squashfs, so they have to use gzip. The kernel develeoper are
> working
> on this. So later the sqfs files will get smaller. We will see.
>
>> 2. Anybody can make squashfs's for Sage or anything else themselves;
>> having us distribute them would increase our workload a lot...
>>
> I know this, therefore I would maintain it, because I produce these
> sqfs files anyway.
> I'm using sage on my jaunty (9.04) vserver, which does not have
> enough
> ram/swap for compiling sage, therefore I have such an image.
> On the other hand my idea was something like a netbook edition too.
> I didn't want to increase your workload. I thought it would be nice to
> give others
> my sage sqfs files, because it takes quite a lot of time to make them.

We can give you free web space where you can post these images.
Write me offlist.  (wst...@gmail.com)

>
>> > that's not an improvement. On the other hand, are you talking about
>> > the live cd? Yes, that's an outdated and when you have created a
>> > better live cd, that runs on more systems, we are happy to host it.
>
> I don't know if it is worth the time. I can write a wiki how to use
> the standard ubuntu
> install cd system and the sqfs file from a usb-stick to use it live.
> This would be
> much easier and the problem will be solved by canonical or the ubuntu
> community.
>
>> > also don't understand the part about speed and parallelization. On all
>> > my PCs the extraction speed is limited by disk I/O ...
> copying 50000 files with 1.4GB or 1 File with 1.4GB is very different.
> And the sqfs is just 390 MB or 640 MB as you wish.
>
> Thank you very much for this great open source project.
> Frank Polte


I use squashfs + unionfs for the virtualbox Sage distribution.  Do you
ever use Virtualbox?
It would be great if somebody else could take over the job (once ever
3 weeks) of updating the virtualbox image and rebuilding the
squashfs+unionfs install, since I don't like doing it at all.

William
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University of Washington
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