On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Jason Grout <jason-s...@creativetrax.com> wrote: > On 10/26/10 7:04 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: >> >> On 10/27/10 12:54 AM, William Stein wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just spent the day working on code with some people, and using >>> http://code.google.com with multiple cloned repositories and their >>> code review system, which allows excellent line by line annotation, >>> allows much better viewing of file diffs, etc., is really much, much >>> better than what we do with trac and the sage referee process. I >>> know Robert Bradshaw and Craig Citro have been saying this for a long >>> time, but I want to add that they are so, so right. >>> >>> -- William >>> >> >> I'd be weary of relying too much on Google - they can pull feature at >> any time. >> >> When I look at the newsgroup I now see >> >> "Google Groups will no longer be supporting the Welcome Message feature. >> Starting January 13, you won't be able to edit your welcome messages, >> but you will still be able to view and download the existing content. >> See this announcement for more information and other options for storing >> your content. [Download Welcome Message Content]" >> >> >> This does not affect me, but there are some advantages in managing your >> own system, and not relying on Google or anyone else. >> > > Along those lines, how easy is it to get the data back out of google's > system?
I don't know. Obviously if you want you scan scrape it. > Sure, the bitbucket repository is easy (and I guess the wiki is > also easy to get out). But what about the line-by-line code reviews? You could scrape it if you want. I care more about the features actually working, so I can get work done, rather than archiving stuff for all future time. I'm not a hoarder. > And then there is the issue of customization. Does the google issue tracker > offer custom workflows? Do you need them. We have custom workflows and customization with trac... and yet frankly I think the results aren't that great. > Custom reports (I see the advanced searching page; > is that the custom reports facility?)? I don't know. > Interaction without creating a > google account? I seriously doubt it. But how is that different than "submitting stuff to trac without a trac account". > Is there an open-source project out there like bitbucket (i.e., like > Gitorious is for git hosting?)? Is Google code better than bitbucket? Since bitbuckets tagline is "Free code hosting for 5 users. Unlimited private or public repositories.", I would say Google code is vastly better, since it is free for arbitrarily many users. > That said, +1 to the comments by Robert, Craig, and several others about > having a nice automated line-by-line code review system. For lumbering bureaucratic Sage itself, I'm not suggesting we switch to Google code. But I am definitely switching to using it for my own work since it's much better system than setting up and managing trac servers, etc. The one crappy thing about this, though, which people may want to think seriously about, is that at the end of the day, *I* am the person who has to deal with all the crap when any of the wiki/trac/etc. sage infrastructure or hardware has trouble... and I don't even "believe in" this system. (That said, of course I appreciate the great work of mhansen, mpatel, etc., on maintaining the project infrastructure when they have time.) -- William -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org
