On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Julien Puydt <julien.pu...@laposte.net> wrote: > Le jeudi 01 mars, Harald Schilly a écrit: >> On Thursday, March 1, 2012 12:01:46 AM UTC+1, Snark wrote: >> > >> > Could you tell me which magical property of sage makes impossible >> > what >> > >> > is possible for other complex systems, and huge sets of packages? >> > >> >> Put simple: Sage is turing complete, a "video editor" (office package >> [*], or whatever) is not. >> A bug in such a productivity software results in an immediate error >> or something that's plain visible. A wrong calculation is just a >> number as any other. > > I'm sorry, but I still fail to see how situation : > > sage contains all its deps (even if they're already there) > > will be any better for subtle bugs than situation : > > sage has the same deps, but doesn't manage them itself more than by > declaring them (and having the system packaging satisfy them).
Here's a rant about this (not written by me): http://wiki.sagemath.org/faq/bigsagerant > > But I very plainly see how the second situation has the following > advantages : > > (-) no risk of a bad interaction between some system packages and what > is basically a copy within sage (termcap issues) ; > > (-) the burden of maintenance between sage deps is now external to sage > (why would you need to care about the deps of say moinmoin? Just > declare it a dep and let the system packaging handle that constraint!) ; > > (-) security concerns get treated by the security teams of the various > distributions ; > > (-) no duplications means it takes less room (sage is as big, but > sys+sage is smaller) > > (-) faster to build, since it becomes possible to use more binary > packages as a base. > > Snark on #sagemath > > -- > To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel > URL: http://www.sagemath.org -- William Stein Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org
