since testing is a bottleneck where can I download Sage 5.0 (alpha)? Is
there a Linux 64bit binary available?  I wouldn't mind testing.





On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Jonathan Bober <jwbo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think I remembered the problems wrong. I think maybe it isn't an issue
> with the version of VirtualBox, but an issue with the kernel that mod.math
> is running. Performance with multiple cores seems to be much worse than
> single core performance. An example I just tried:
>
> with a single core in the VM, time to compile gnutls:
>
> real 7m46.024s
> user 1m23.073s
> sys 4m48.342s
>
> with 4 cores in the VM, time to compile gnutls (using a single process):
>
> real 13m20.065s
> user 4m50.114s
> sys 15m43.147s
>
> (mod.math is heavily loaded right now, so maybe this isn't a completely
> conclusive test, but I think it is reliable.) I think that things are
> actually much worse than it seems with the above timings. Multicore
> VirtualBox seems to be basically unusable on mod.math. (I've tried this
> before, and had a similar experience.)
>
> It is hard for me to find reliable information from google, given the age
> of the OS, but there is some reference to problems here:
> https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/5501. On the bug discussion, there's
> basically no identification of the problem other than "it goes away with a
> newer kernel," though.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:20 PM, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Jonathan Bober <jwbo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I am going to be building a VM on sage.math for other purposes soon, so
>> I'll
>> > try to make one for this as well. I suppose we would want something like
>> > Ubuntu 11.10 32-bit desktop edition?
>> >
>> > (Unfortunately, virtualbox on the *.math machines is really old, or at
>> least
>> > it was last time I checked, so using more than one cpu, for example,
>> doesn't
>> > work. It might be nice if it could be upgraded somehow, but I imagine
>> that
>> > might be rather difficult without upgrading the OS.)
>>
>> Use mod.math instead of boxen.math.  On mod.math there is a newer
>> virtualbox.
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Jeroen Demeyer <jdeme...@cage.ugent.be>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 2012-03-06 15:17, Georg S. Weber wrote:
>> >> > I would expect that a "Linux i386" machine
>> >> > is mainly tested as a virtualized image (with a special "32bit"
>> setup,
>> >> > of course, maybe even using SAGE_ATLAS and such).
>> >> This has been suggested regularly, it just needs to be done.  If you
>> are
>> >> able to do this, please do it!
>> >>
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