On Friday, April 19, 2013 11:10:27 PM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 19, 2013 11:02:01 PM UTC+2, yomcat wrote: >> >> On 20/04/2013, at 8:13 AM, Jean-Pierre Flori <jpf...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Friday, April 19, 2013 8:58:15 PM UTC+2, yomcat wrote: >> >> >> >> On 20/04/2013, at 4:43 AM, Jean-Pierre Flori >> >> <jpf...@gmail.com<javascript:>> >> >> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >> >>> >> >>> We are currently updating the "install from source" doc at #14465, >> but >> >> I'm >> >>> a little lost about what to say for Mac OS X, see >> >>> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/14465#comment:4. >> >>> It has been previously stated that the "Command line tools" of Xcode >> >> were >> >>> sufficient and could be downloaded separately form Apple dev site, >> but >> >> it >> >>> does not seem to be the case anymore (I've registered there, there's >> >> only >> >>> Java stuff and old Xcode 3.*). >> >> That's odd. My Apple Dev thing (free version) looks like >> >> http://yomcat.geek.nz/sage/clt.PNG (that's just logging in at >> >> http://developer.apple.com/downloads). >> >> >> > Strange, I just see that: >> > http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/jpflori/mac.png >> > Not so nice as yours... >> > Did I screw something up when registering? >> > Does Apple hate me? >> I'm going for the second one. >> I tried from a Linux machine, and it worked the same as my OS X one. I >> have no idea why it doesn't like you. It should. >> > >> >>> First it seems xcode is now free, cannot really check as I have no >> Mac >> >> and >> >>> so no access to the Mac App Store. >> >> This is true. >> >>> Second, from what I see at https://developer.apple.com/xcode/, it's >> >> stated >> >>> that this "command line tools" part is an optional part of xcode that >> >> you >> >>> can download from within xcode. >> >> Also true. >> >>> So it would mean that to get the "command line tools", you need to >> >> install >> >>> xcode first... >> >> It's one way, and the way that I use. However, you can download them >> >> directly from Apple, as shown in the screenshot above. >> >>> >> >>> So should we suggest the user to install xcode and then download >> these >> >>> optional "command line tools"? >> >> I say yes, as it seems easier. I have had issues trying to download >> from >> >> the Apple dev site. >> >>> Or is this optional part useless once the user has installed Xcode? >> >> No. Just installing XCode does not give the command line tools. You >> need >> >> to go into prefs and manually download them. >> >> >> > Yes i got that. >> > So you confirm that command line tools are needed, just installing >> Xcode >> > without the optional package is not enough. >> Yes, this. XCode without the CLT is useless (as far as Sage is concerned) >> >> Or is there a hidden place from where you can download the "command >> line >> > >> >>> tools" alone as >> >>> >> stackoverflow.com/questions/9329243/xcode-4-4-command-line-toolssuggests? >> >> >> It's not very hidden, though it appears to change monthly, and it's >> >> different if you're on Lion or Mountain Lion. >> >>> >> >>> Best, >> >>> JP >> >> >> >> Michael >> >> Ok, I even found command line tools mentioned here: > https://developer.apple.com/opensource/ > > About the registration, its strange, I just created two other "Apple ID"s > but the result is the same... > It seems it happened to other people as well: https://discussions.apple.com/message/21781679#21781679
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