< I don't really wee why it could not be user-friendly, can you elaborate 
on this? 

I think cygwin is a lot slower than virtualisation - or has this changed?

Am Montag, 4. April 2016 14:38:41 UTC+2 schrieb Sebastien Gouezel:
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> Le lundi 4 avril 2016 11:48:34 UTC+2, Erik Bray a écrit :
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>> Yes, I think this approach is mainly useful for newcomers. The 
>> majority of the problems you mentioned came in due to already having 
>> various bits of this installed.  I'm not quite sure I understand the  
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> point about latex. 
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> I mean that sagemath in a VM will not interact well with other normal 
> programs on my computer. Say I have mathematica or maple, will sagemath in 
> VM be able to call them?
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>> I'm -1 on Cygwin for a few reasons, but am working on building Sage 
>> natively for Windows without a posix-compatibility layer.  (Though I'm 
>> not opposed to supporting Cygwin too of course but I don't think it's 
>> the most user-friendly approach in the long term). 
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> I don't really wee why it could not be user-friendly, can you elaborate on 
> this? Note that there are cygwin programs that come with an all-in-one 
> installer just as what you did for sagemath in VM, installing the bits of 
> cygwin they need -- the user just has to click on OK once or twice, and 
> then everything is working in a completely transparent way. Check out for 
> instance Isabelle/HOL at https://isabelle.in.tum.de/
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> Of course, a native windows build would be even better, but that seems to 
> be an order of magnitude more difficult since many programs in 
> sage-the-distribution use the posix layer (PARI, for instance)
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>> For an "average" user I think this installer is much friendlier than 
>> any other currently working approach. 
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> I agree completely.
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> Sebastien
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